Celtic Supporters Thread (contains GB chat)

One of the best, most balanced statements in have ever seen from the group - and highlights most importantly their intentions to cooperate with the club over certain issues, something alot were unaware off, hopefully those in the 'Aye, well they were * warned, get it up them!' camp read this and wise up to the situation.

(Use of videos also puts Celtic in a very uncomfortable position, particularly with the seats - everyone who sees that video immediately knows falsities have been reported on their behalf.)

Over to you Celtic, what you going to do: Score another own goal or finally look out for the fans and rectify this situation?


-Edit: Bet you this statement gets zero media coverage in comparison to the other one.

 

Most likely :smiley-laughing002:.

 

How can they post that youtube link and say that it shows there to be "no clear sign of damage"? If anyone actually watches it, that is blatantly not true.

 

If there wasn't 8 stewards around the section then there would be no danger...

 

I'm not sure what you're suggesting. Are you saying the 8 stewards damaged all those seats? Or are you saying the 8 stewards made the GB lie in their statement which linked to this video it claimed showed "no evidence" of damage?

The rest of the statement is just as ridiculous. You do not "negotiate" by offering to graciously stop behaviours that are simply not allowed (crowd surfing). To attempt to deflect blame regarding flares is also disingenuous when the GB website itself has several images of GB members with flares at matches going back years.

 

Well said mate, people inside Celtic have been telling the support a lot of bull.

 

The seats look fine to me with the exception of a few dents. Certainly not 131 broken seats or whatever they were quoting after the Cliftonvile game.

 

If you want to believe everything the clubs says on ya go, but they have been caught telling tales yet again mate. What about the other stuff in the statement, what about the interviews on you tube?
Certain people inside CP have questins to answer, you dont go about bad mouthing yer own fans.

 

The group have never said the don't or haven't used flares or pyro...just not at home can't really be bothered having to explain things to the board's * lickers...

 

190 broken seats.

 

That's the crux of the argument though isn't it.

The GB DOES have to explain itself to the board - the board runs the club. The board doesn't have to explain itself to, or cater to, a small group of fans.

e: To deal with the flare point specifically - you can't honestly be saying that the GB saying "yeah we've used them in the past, yes we use them, and yes they were used in our section, but no it wasn't us" is in any way believable or genuine. It's total *.

It's the same as everything else. The rules apply to everyone, GB included, and applying those rules to the GB is not "harassment".

 

I stopped reading their statement right there. They got several warnings, nothing abrupt about it. Dont really want to listen to their spin

 

Mankini protest v Shakhter Karagandy in support of the green brigade!

 

That bit in bold is a lovely attitude you've got there. It's actually not just the GB who are want an explanation, so we are not talking about whether or not they owe an explanation to a small group (although I would contend that you are wrong and they'd owe an explanation to even one Celtic fan); it's actually about half of our entire support that are demanding an explanation and documentary evidence of their assertions and insinuations.

I'm not quite sure how you can have negotiations where only one side has to answer to the other; but then I don't think you want negotiations, do you? You want the GB to just do what they're told and follow the every rule to the letter regardless of the rights and wrongs of the situation, am I right?

 

Its as if 1994 never happened with some of our support. Yeah of course, the board are always right.#BeCeltic

 

Many of us feel that this came out of the blue. Given statements from both parties about productive discussion and willingness to sort things out, I don't think the adjective "abrupt" is inappropriate to describe this decision. If you are only willing to read the statements of one side, you can't possibly reach any fair conclusions.

 

The current board are nothing like them and this scenario is a million miles away from what happened in 94, you are being melodramatic.

 

I'd be very surprised if "half our entire support" gives a * about what happens to 200 people, but if that is the case (and it might be, I'd just be surprised), then raising the issue at an AGM shouldn't be difficult.

As for the bolded part, no I don't want "negotiations". As you so rightly say, negotiations suggests that both sides are equal and that is obviously not the case here. We have the club on one side (and don't try to get away from that, it is THE CLUB on one side - not just some boogie man "board of directors") and 200 self-styled "rebel" fans on the other. Negotiations should be nothing more than the Green Brigade being informed of the rules they are required to follow and thanked for their future cooperation.

 

Excellent:smiley-laughing002::bbpd: