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Peadophile ring smashed by cops

Discussion in 'TalkCeltic Pub' started by Mr. Slippyfist, Nov 26, 2010.

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  1. Marie Bookmaker

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    I didn't think you had hidden undercurrent...just wasn't fully understanding what you meant by your post...and tried to reply a few times but decided it came across as if i was trolling you which I had no intention of doing.

    I understand what you are saying about how as humans we are all capable of these things whether they are good or bad....hatred is maybe one I am capable of....I'm definitely capable of but I think I keep that to myself mostly...bar talking on here about peados. I have a hatred but it's kept inside of me....maybe that is wrong to do but it is far better keeping it under control than me directing my hatred at the source...I would rather die in silence than let them think they got the better of me.

    I don't know how I would have turned out in a different set of circumstances...I'd honestly and truthfully think I would have been the same person....I don't think I have a bad bone in my body....but who knows...maybe if I was born to a parent that abused me sexually I'd be different so I do get understand what you mean there now.

    I'd personally say the child that was violated and tortured was the worst fate than the abuser to be honest....but fair dos as the saying goes.
     
  2. Col

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    I don't think the genocide of however many million people killed at the hands of Hitlers regime is even comparable.

    Yes the mind is a complex thing, but I honestly believe that within the make up of the mind that the difference between whats right and whats wrong if implanted to a certain extent.
     
  3. Mr. Slippyfist

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    So what your saying is that if you WERE NOT taught the difference between right and wrong, your brain would magically know the difference?
     
  4. Marie Bookmaker

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    I'm going to stay out of this....I'm not subjective enough at the moment to really debate it in a sensible fashion....it's saturday night...I'm off for the weekend and want to enjoy it.

    What I do want to say is well done to the police and everyone involved in getting these monsters off the streets and out of they way of their next potential victim
     
  5. mygirlmaria

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    It seems the thing to do here,is to try and outdo one another with our own particular form of retribution!Id do this....well id do that,etc etc.All very good,but it doesnt make the problem go away.
    There absolutely SHOULD be a clear difference in the punishment of these paedophiles,and the punishment for murder.If you do all these vile acts as a form of revenge/punishment,you will only make the situation worse.These people are almost beyond help,but there has to be an incentive for them NOT to kill their victims.In my opinion,they should be opening clinics for volutary castrations,and those caught should have a reduced sentence for accepting castration.If you nutters kill and maim the way you say you want to,then you will be sentencing many children to death.These people must know that keeping the kids alive will mean a lesser sentence,or they will clearly kill to cover up their act.As much as we would all love to do this and that to them,we have to be rational.
     
  6. Col

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    Course not, what I am saying is that I think within our makeup we can identify the difference between whats right and whats wrong from a very early age,

    I think its easy to point out that as a society the difference between whats right and whats not is lost on some, but what I am trying to point out is that I honestly feel that there is a part of the human mind that can define this from a young age quite simply.
     
  7. alsybhoy

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    see another thing that * me off also! is the * that folk come out with if they were abused themselves thats why perhaps they do it? a load of *. they do it cos they are * sick i the head thats why and its another way for them cowards to cover themselves up and get the tiniest of pity from someone. shoot the * and be done with them. cos whenever they grt out the clink? they will destroy 1 or even more lives innocent lives at that and get jailed again with everything done for them apart getting their arses wiped.and when they get out again! guess what? they will recieve a new identity again a new house somewhere else and oh! they are doing it all again at our expense. * disgusting and the law needs to grow a * set aswell:38:
     
  8. Mr. Slippyfist

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    Ok mate, as I say, everyone's opinions are entitled...:50:

    I just think differently, and that Socialization has a big part to play in a childs human development.
     
  9. Mr. Slippyfist

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    I'd love to have this attitude Alsy:icon_mrgreen:

    I agree the Law is a total DISGRACE when it comes to convicting acts of Peadophilia.

    You say that these people are sick in the head....yes you are quite correct.......but why are some of these people sick in the head? Because someones actions have made them sick in the head!

    Not saying that all peados have been tampered with as youngsters....probably the case that it is the minority........but some of them have issues that is far too complex for people to even want to comprehend.
     
  10. alsybhoy

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    why? * knows. mayebe the y got

    barbie dolls taken off them?
    got slagged at school too much for being fat?
    got bullied for being a *?
    never had enough dosh for a blow up doll?
    being * ugly and still a virgin etc. take your pick.

    serously! its like why do dogs attack kinda thing(completely different i know just an eg)must be something in their wee sad tiny world that goes pop in their heads. still no excuse.
     
  11. Mr. Slippyfist

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    Maybe so!

    I'm getting sick of talking about these * now so i'm just going to say again well done to the * crime unt of the constabulary who brought these scoundrels to justice!

    Thats me finished with this thread...got better things to do than think about peadophiles!:rolleyes:
     
  12. The The Hand

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    Alsy, where have I defended them? I'm every bit as horrified by their sick acts as you are.

    Secondly - when I say they're human beings, I'm not making some kind of point, I'm just stating something that is a fact. As in "that's their species" - human, with a mum and a dad.

    They've done studies in various parts of the world, and found that between 60 and 70 percent of * abusers were themselves abused as kids. That's not somebody's mad theory, that's the actual stats.

    Thye did a big study in the US, and found that in 77% of cases the abuser is a parent, in 88% of cases it is a relative.

    Child abusers are not some kind of other species - in most cases they are actually the dads or mums of the abused kid.

    Don't want to seem like I'm picking a fight here, cos I know you are a good guy, and you're obviously every bit as shocked and disgusted by this as I am.

    All I'm saying is we need to try and find out WHY these people do what they do, if we want to try and stop it happening to other kids in the future.

    Anyhow, respect to all here: I've had enough of thinking about paedophiles for one night.
     
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    just kill them after they have been made someones * in prison
     
  14. Feyenoord_Celt

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    Imo they have a psychological disorder and sexual disorder.It is a fact that you can learn a pedophile to stop feeling sexual attraction to children. They made a sexual association towards children in their brain. It's a conditioned association. Their brain does not correct this and ours does. Normal adults have no sexual feelings towards children but just normal love or feelings of care. These people have a defect in their brain. I see them as mentally ill people and I do not favour them getting shot or whatever because I believe you can help these people. If they commit a crime they should get the appropriate prison time. But there should be a possibility for them to seek help and fix that disorder.
     
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    I love you Alsy...You shoot right from the hip! Agree with every word :50: Let any man or woman here say anything different if it were their child.......make no mistake no one is immune to such creeps! It's wrong, wrong, wrong and if people were to go around giving in to their instincts to do just what they feel like ...........what a crazy upside down world we would live in. From childhood most of us are taught right from wrong either by our parents, schooling or peers. We pick up on the do's and dont's therefore it's my contention that such people make the choice to do these things knowing full well the rest of society considers it to be unnatural.
     
  16. Taz Blind Justice Gold Member News Writer

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    These sickos should consider themselves fortunate that they even recieved a trial. As a father I can only imagine what my reaction would be if someone so much as touched a hair on my daughter's head - I'd take a potato peeler to the b*stards and skin 'em.

    Lets hope they get whats coming to them in the clink.
     
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    generally pedophiles have alot of implulse control issues..thats basically the purpose of rehab, to get them to work out what triggers it then go through step by step using techniques ( i wouldnt know because ive never worked with any) so that they can if they're deemed fit, go back into society without such impliuses.

    although pedophiles see children as potential * partners, of which they think they can have a relationship with the child, which results in abuse because the child is not psychologically able to consent to something they cannot comprehend.

    * may also attribute to it as well, such as 'teens' and 'school girls' sometimes almost make such grey areas acceptable.

    most pedophiles dont want to change, some dont want to believe what they do is wrong, so they should never be let back into society...

    prevention is alot better than cure, if the govt paid as much attention to this as other bullshit, then there could be some sort of positive change protecting children.

    sadly, children are abused by those they trust and love most.
     
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    so! whats your answer to that then? how? there is no way for * like this other than the death penalty simple as.thats how you prevent it.

    h! i respect the * out of you hee mate i really do! but you keep mentioning the human factor to them! they are no longer human beings when the vent their sick evil upon an innocent child and therefore make it even worse when the generate a * gang to carry it on. not on mate shoot the *. and they way you wrote it it to me was like you were defending them a little. so apologies if i took it the wrong way.

    love you too baby cakes:icon_mrgreen:. aye if there is something that i wanna say ill say it no matter what. cannot be something im not you see. shoot from the hip as you say ,
     
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    parents should be screened psychologically.. to see if they are capable of looking after children or to see if there is a chance children might be mistreated.

    although i do agree, there should be very harsh laws, against abuse of all sorts.
     
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    Impossible !!! who is going to pay for all these Psychometric tests ??? ..live in the real world will you please..Also what about kids that get abused from other people other than their parents !!!!!
     
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