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Bill Leckie on Scott Brown

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by skegsagypsy, Aug 31, 2010.

Discuss Bill Leckie on Scott Brown in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. Metrobhoy

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    OK, who's been better?
     
  2. pelethebhoy

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    I think brown will be ''rested'' this weekend against hearts, begging the question, Who does lennon see as his best midfield?

    With Hearts being a superior side to motherwell, it could very well tell its own story if this happens.
     
  3. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    It's not really the opposite though is it? Every single member of this forum that has Brown in their avatar, or is known as being the one that sticks up for him when he's being chastised are all massive Scotland fans that appear to get just as excited at a national team game than they do about Celtic. For the record, McCourt has done more in a handful of substitute appearances to win a game of football than Brown has done in 3 seasons worth of 90 minutes appearances, fact.

    The people in the game that rate him; Burley - flopped as Scotland manager, Mowbray - flopped as Celtic manager, Smith - suits his spoiling and defensive tactics especially for Scotland where we will be the worse team most of the time, Lennon - inherited him as the team captain and a 4.5 million quid investment earning over 16 grand a week. Before long Lennon will realise he is a wasted jersey if all he provides is a snarling presence when what we really need is creativity and vision. He has already started to use him less sparingly and substituting him where the others wouldn't.

    You can't deny the fact you are a massive Scotland fan doesn't bias you?

    I wasn't suggesting his nationality is purely the reason, but it is a contributing factor and there is no coincidence it is all Scottish, Scotland fans that seem to rate him.
     
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    Im from England mate and I really like Brown
     
  5. Metrobhoy

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    I can deny it. Yes, I'm a Scotland fan alright being Scottish funnily enough but if I thought Brown wasn't good enough I would say without a problem. It's not as if I'm blinded by being a relative or something! He's been in good form this season however and I fail to see why it gets unnoticed off so many people on here. I would say they're are biased against him. It's coming across more obvious than ever.
     
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    to be fair, I follow the Scottish National team and I think Brown is rubbish. I don't think it's a matter of nationality. He actually has chipped in with a couple of goals for Scotland in the past few games but that's mainly because there are bigger players in the team than him. It's not that I have some personnal vendetta against Brown, it would be the same if we had another player as captain in place who was playing atrocious in big games. The guy is never a footballer though.
     
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    Utterly rank rotten. As big as an imposter as I've ever seen pull on the hoops.

    People that praise the guy come out with the same tired old pish all the time: gives 110%, dig, aggression. These are all on page 1 of the manual of being a footballer.

    All I see is a guy that charges about like a nutter clattering opponents and that is continually shown up in big games for being what he is - completely average.

    He can't pass and can't shoot, doesn't get forward, has poor ball control and continues to pick up stupid cards on a regular basis.

    Conspiracy theories about people hating him because he was a known hun before he signed are crap as well.

    How come Danny McGrain, Davie Provan, Paul Lambert, Craig Burley and Craig Beattie were never treated the same way in that case?

    Another window passes without all these squillion pound offers coming in for him we keep hearing about. I'd happily boot him onto London Road free of charge to get him off the wage bill.
     
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    hes started well this season imo gives more than ledley i think
     
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    100% spot on m8 if this guy called brown turned up for the hoops and played as well as he did for scotland then we would have 1 * of a player but he doesnt and fans of his will say mitigating circumstances and what not but he still played for the dark blues through all this i for 1 will come out and say he is only at celtic cause the huns couldnt afford him though many may chastice me for saying this
     
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    I think brown always flatters to decieve. He looks as though he could be a world beater but he never is. I can't remeber ever coming away from a game thinking that guy brown is something special.

    His passing is terrible.
    Has he scored over 10 goals in total in the time he has been at celtic?
    He has just not filled his potential at all.
     
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    There is a clear bias of everyone on here who slate Scott Brown.
    Not the fans sticking up for him!
    I think its preposterous the stick he's getting (yet again) a few games into the season.
    For all the haters tell me when the lad has had a decent run since his POTY season... he hasn't really until now, when things matter, the league matters.
     
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    100% agree. Brown has one magic quality though - how he has managed to pull the wool over some fans eyes for the past 3 years. He's rank rotten and won't improve. I just can't fathom the 'he's still settling in' excuse - biggest pile of * i've ever heard. He's from this country and has been here for 3 years. He is a total waste of space who conspires to cost our team with his constant stupid fouls and needless bookings/sending offs.
     
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    i agree with both of you guys but the thing is he is lennon's captain and he will probs get a new deal by the end of the season....... mabe wee gordon will do us a turn in jan and sign him?
     
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    The level of Broony dislike just does not tally with what the people in the game think about him. In 80% of the games he has played this season and close season he has been one of our best players. That is even acknowledged on many threads on this site. Its always the same. The whole team has an off day but Broony and Sammy get the blame. The timing of this thread is totally insane when he has been one of our best this season. I make a point of watching Broony's so called bad passing closely. In recent times he has generally only hit an average of 1 or 2 bad passes a game, far better than some of our players.
     
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    Yes, I've been doing the same.

    Totally correct about being the blame figure also. It used to be Caldwell, Naylor and McManus. Now it's Samaras and Brown even when there are clowns like Mulgrew and Hooiveld on the pitch having nightmares.
     
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    Just a thought, just like darren fletcher for scotland I think Brown suffers from not having the right players around him, I think this season with Kayal Ledley and Juarez Brown will have quality players around him giving him freedom to realise his potential I think these players have the ability to open up games and the options to get away from the 442 formation which has left us so static in the past 3 seasons. I back him to score 10+ goals this season.
     
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    This is the one positive I'd give Lennon so far as well as the ability to grind out matches. Playing that silly 4-2-4 last season meant teams like Falkirk were out-playing us at times.

    We'll have to go 4-1-3-1-1 in games so long as Maloney is fit enough or McCourt can last the 90.

    And yes, Brown operates better in a 3 man midfield. He always has done.
     
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    I think last few seasons most managers have tried to build team around McGeady and the 442 formation suited him. I think now we have players who can change formation rather than like for like, also think we need to change formations for certain games we need to be less predictable, we need to play brown to his strengths running at players and getting up to support the attack should be a Petrov rather than a lennon, we now have players who can fill the holding midfielder role and let wee broony concentrate on his role 100%
     
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    Ok, let me start by dispelling the myth, that if you dont like Brown its a Nationality thing or that he's allegedly a Hun, load of crap and clutching at straws, I don't like Brown because he's a poor footballer and detrimental to my team ! A team I have supported for over 40 years and a team I love passionately.

    People that praise the guy come out with the same tired old rant all the time so he's aggressive ! so he gives 100%, he hasn't settled yet etc etc, bullox ! He's a highly paid imposter, who since his arrival at Celtic has done * all, except cost us games, I can't think of one game where he's been an asset !

    All I see is a guy that charges about like a nutter, spends most of his time slabbering like a two year old. When he does pick up the ball and tries to drive forward he usually runs into someone because he cant lift his head.

    He can't pass and can't shoot, doesn't get forward, has poor ball control and continues to pick up stupid cards on a regular basis.

    Another window passes and not one offer for him, suggest he's not rated @ all and I for one know why, he is awful, I know there are plenty on here who feel it wrong to post negative stuff about Celtic players, but come on guys, any negative comments are relative to the facts, and in Browns case the facts are there, he has done * all in a Celtic shirt for three seasons now, he should be punted out of the club asap ! Celtic captain !! Never in a million years !