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Can we allow Refs to rob us again?

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Lloyd Cole, Aug 7, 2010.

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  1. Lloyd Cole

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    The biased refereeing has been going on for decades. Even one of our most famous players and greatest captain Billy McNeill MBE a true statesman of the game has said "Referees have favoured Rangers for 50 years"

    The media cover it up because they are mainly made up of Rangers fans, the Celtic fans in the media stay silent to protect their jobs.

    The whole thing reeks to high heaven, last season was beyond the joke. Rangers should have been presented with whistle shaped league medals and had Dougie McDonald's and Gordon Smith's names engraved on the back, either side of "We are the People".

    If it happens again this season, should we just sit back and accept it? Or should we Celtic fans get an Internet Campaign/petition together and send it to UEFA/FIFA...that would make the SFA and Rangers quake in their boots.

    Is it time for people power? I am sure you'll agree that we all pay too much money to allow this daylight robbery to continue.

    Willie Maley, Jock Stein, Sir Robert Kelly, Fergus McCann, David Hay and Billy McNeill would just not stand for this pro Rangers bias.

    Last season Mogga just said "we'll take it on the chin and move on" Sorry Mogga that never worked...this season if it's the same disgrace, should we be writing directly to Lawwell, Reid and Lenny demanding they investigate? Or demanding our money back?

    Just think for a minute fellow Celtic fans;

    Had the referees called the decisions correctly last season - there would have been a 26 point swing. In otherwords Celtic would have won the league by 19/20 points.

    If the referees called it correctly (as is there job), Celtic would not have had to play a CL qualifier - instead we have banked £10/12m CL group stage money.

    £10/12m CL money is about 15% of all Celtic's income and is 25% of Football Operations related income.

    That extra money goes a long way to strengthening Celtic's team and the players we watch.

    In short, we are pumping money in...but getting the returns stolen from us by biased refereeing.

    It can't continue, can it?
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  2. Padraig1916

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    I just don't see it. The standard of referee in Scotland is * but I honestly don't believe the majority of them are bias. Years ago it was much easier for the hun in black to get away with it however these days they will be found out to easily. The ropey decisions are because they are just not very good rather than overt bias. There are exceptions to the rule and at least one or two will show the huns favour. Years ago when I was a lad a grade 1 referee from Cowdenbeath came staggering out a pub singing the sash. That * often refereed Celtic and rangers however never when they played each other. Obviously the SFA knew and tolerated his bigotry.
     
  3. Colin McRae

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    Down with this sort of thing!

    mate the season hasn't started yet. hows about giving it a chance. Last year we were victims of poor decisions and a VERY poor manager. this is a new season, we can win the league and we will win the league.
     
  4. Lloyd Cole

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    So you think Billy McNeill is a liar then?
     
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    All I am doing is alerting fans to the fact that the continuous cheating has to stop.

    Yes let's start the new season and let's hope it's all fair and square, but if it's not then what? Just sit back and say "dems the breaks, that's fitba" and watch Lenny lose his job and Celtic lose a fortune because of it.

    Remember the old saying;

    "all it takes is for good men to do nothing for evil to prevail."
     
  6. Lloyd Cole

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    So why did the vast majority of the "ropey decisions" go in favour of one club?
     
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    If the team's good enough, the 'mistakes' they make shouldnt matter
     
  8. Colin McRae

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    Can't some one be wrong without being a liar? he's talking about the present day.

    out of curiosity What age are you? Because are you speaking of these decades of bias as first hand experience.. or the odd clip you've seen and going on stories of others?
    There are hun refs. there are ref's that hate the huns
    refs aint all rangers or celtic fans. We're not the only two teams in the country.
     
  9. Lloyd Cole

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    Talking about decades of bias, witnessed first hand and also about the bias decisions witnessed by my father, grandfather and great grandfather since Celtic began to be successful. On the subject of clips, I have a vast library of Celtic matches since I started recording them in 1982.

    The majority of referees are Rangers men. They have shown bias before and its robbing Celtic FC year in year out.

    Jock Stein used to say "Celtic have to be extra good because we are sometimes playing against 14 men."

    David Hay said "The only way Celtic will get fair decisions will be if we join the English league"

    Billy McNeill "The referees have been biased towards Rangers for 50 years"

    Onto the present day; let's look at our most recent competitive season - 26 points would have been the swing had referees called it right.

    Craig Brown, Gus McPherson, Billy Reid, Peter Houston, Craig Levien, Mark McGhee - all expressed disgust at the refereeing when they played Rangers last season. Were they all wrong as well?
     
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    Paranoia. Yes some mistakes but I know quite a few of the refs and they are honest guys.
     
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    i wouldn't say it was paranoia tbh. Some of the decisions that went pro-Rangers/anti-Celtic were too much for me. I am, however, of the opinion that if your team is good enough then the Refs are powerless to stop you from winning and therefore we lost the title because we were poor, but some referee performances were blatantly biased at times.
     
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    Very poor decisions, bias is opinion in my mind and it's the way of things when it comes to old firm fans thinking
     
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    I actually think this year we'll get a much better standard of ref. last two years aint been great so it's our turn
     
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    If a ref was a bowler hat wearing, sash singing, goat * do you not think we would get to know about it? It does not happen. The refs are * - not bias. Even the hun refs will go out of there way not to be biased. If there was a hun conspiracy against Celtic by refs we would know about it. The "big' teams always seem to get decisions. Every other non Celtic/hun fan in Scotland swear blind they get robbed at CP. In the English Prem the same thing is said. Man U/Arsenal/Chelsea also get the majority of decisions.
     
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    We should be able to beat teams even with a few dodgy decisions in a game. When you are relying on a ref to help you out of a bind against the like of Falkirik your in trouble. We should be able to maintian a lead, or if were down by 1 should be able to score 1 or 2.
    Different agaisnt Rangers I know, but it's always been like that. It is getting highligthed more and more by the fans which in turn alerts the media to highlight inadequate standards.
    Let's start the season, see how it rolls and NOT rely on refs but only ourselves to beat teams.
    Folk seem to forget that we have had many decisions going for us (mainly can't keep ma hands down Caldwell.)
     
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    The club has to exert massive pressure on referees, just like the Hun FA does. Let's see how would they like a taste of their own medicine.
     
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    The Paranoid thread returns .
     
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