Have the Strachan haters got what they deserved?

Who, when .why .

 

I can.:icon_mrgreen:

 

Agree with 95% of this
& disagree with 7%

 

Yeah but you've been smoking dope all night

 

Something which left along with WGS, we need that never say die attitude back.

 

You didn't say you hated MON neither did I say you did.
You cannot rewrite history. Gravenson 'a risk'. No a mistake we signed him from real madrid not Livingston. How can you not care about points or stats that is how you measure things.

 

Love the maths

 

Comparing that Artmedia side with that Basel side is ridiculous and you know it.

It's not discrediting Strachan, it's believing that MON's achievements were better. I got more joy from Seville than I ever did from making the last 16.

You get points by winning matches, not sure if you've noticed that. MON getting more points = more wins. You're not bothered with a statistic * contest because they don't support your argument. You can't run from them. The fact remains that Strachan never equaled even MON's worst year in the point column, or the win column for that matter if you need it spelled out for you.

Gravesen came from Real Madrid, Donati had a load of U-21 caps from Italy and was still promising at that point, and Jarosik came from Chelsea just like Sutton. These are guys that had pedigree.

And as I said, Strachan is a great transition manager. Did you not catch that? He did what he had to do better than MON would have, but that doesn't mean he's a better manager. When not in transition I'd take MON over Strachan every time.

This is getting ridiculous, stop acting like a little kid. I've said repeatedly that Strachan was a good transition manager. If you are unable to argue with someone who's not totally on the other side of your argument then that's your loss. Whenever you want to formulate a rational argument I'm here. It's sad that the anti-Strachan brigade have pushed you to this point.

 

No me mate ,daft enough without that *.:bbpd:

 

I wasn't talking about you Rossenspeil so to be honest what you say has no relevance. Dempsey did in fact claim I didn't appreciate Strachan's accomplishments. What you say, again, really doesn't matter here because I never responded to you. I clearly stated I used hyperbole, something I usually don't like, in attributing Dempsey's viewpoint to others who like Strachan more than MON. If you don't think that way, fine, but don't get worked up about it because I haven't even read your comments.

 

eh?

 

Oh I see, I will take my irrelevance to a more sub-standard intelligence thread in that case.

No ones getting worked up, I'm simply saying a statement like:

Unfortunately people think that if you like MON you have to hate Strachan.


is a pile of *.

 

Gravesen was fresh from a training ground bust up with Robinho, their jewel in their crown at the time. He was a risk, I said it on this website before he had a Celtic jersey in his hand. He was a huge footballing risk and a financial risk.

I dont care about using points totals to compare managerial skill.

I could use youtube highlights to make Kenny Miller look like a clinical finisher. You can use stats to prove/disprove anything tbh

Lets look at things in a broader context

MON inherited a good side + Larsson + a war chest to buy quality players. You dont get a better starting point than that.

Strachan inherited an old squad with several first team players outside the wage structure and they were to be sold off for the sake of the clubs future. No Larsson, no warchest of money.

Which scenario do you think is easier to succeed in?

 

For the record, Thomas Gravesen score 6 goals in 18 starts for Celtic, including 2 goals in 3 starts against the huns and a hat-trick against St Mirren.

 

Dear * people here are so sensitive. Harden up. What you said was irrelevant because I wasn't replying to you. It's not irrelevant because you're stupid or anything it's just because I didn't read what you wrote.

And no, it's not a pile of *. As I've said twice now, yeah it was hyperbole, but if you ever enter a pro-Strachan thread and mention MON being better, people will hop on you for being part of the anti-Strachan crowd. It's happened before.

 

I can't help thinking that Gordon Strachan must have been sitting in his house in Middlesbrough this past January with a rather wry smile on his face when he heard Celtic had acquired Robbie Keane for the rest of the season. I'm pretty sure if we'd have got Robbie Keane in last January we'd have won 4IAR.

 

So what. A training ground bust up boo hoo, Did Tosh not lamp Larsson. You call it a risk but i call it a mistake a very expesive one at that. John barnes inherited a good team but couldn't manage it.

 

Both managers will never get a bad word from me and I would have either one of them back in a shot.

Their is no doubting however that WGS never got the same acceptance as MON did, despite having a record that is more than comparable whilst having a fraction of what he had to spend.

 

For the record in 2003 Celtic won he haw ,a lot of people [fans] still talk about Seville as there high point to date as a Celtic fan ,yes it was amazing ,what i take out of 2003 is we lost the league on the last day when it was in the bag ,but MON came away a hero for that season that brought no silverware ,it doesnt add up.

 

I totally agree and chances are I was right there with you when people were slating Strachan while we were winning titles. I thought it was a disgraceful way to treat a winning manager.