mcgeady-i wouldnt pay to watch celtic just now .

Have to disagree mate.

Point 1 - John Kennedy was miles better

Point 2 - Andreas Hinkel is the best player at the moment

Point 3 - Tommy Burns loved the club, but they sacked him

Point 4 - Gives 100% when he can be bothered

Would sell him coz he is a 1 trick pony. He steps over with the right, then left, then tries to beat the man. When he beats them, he should cross the ball, but would rather try and repeatedly beat defenders then loses the ball. OR, he wants the full back to overlap, tries to skin the defender, loses the ball and stands watching OUR full back racing 60/70/80 yards to defend and doesnt bother his * tracking back. He is the most over-rated player in the SPL since Barry Backpass broke into the Rangers team

 

Sorry but if someone like sammy came out and said this everyone would be talking about how he's a * and the likes but since its McGeady no one gives a *.

 

Mate give the guy a break FFS, he was our best player in the first half against dundee utd, they couldnt deal with him atall which is obviously something levein had a word about at half time and they got alot closer to him. He would have had 2 assists if the person you should be angry and complaining about could finish (fortune). But one trick pony ? i could show you any mcgeady video you want and i bet you'l find more than one trick . I beleive we are lucky to have a player like mcgeady who actually wants to and can get past players, if you want a team full of people who punt it up the park and couldnt skin a parked car (which we almost have bar mcgeady and a few other) then thats your choice but i think your being a bit harsh on him.

 

At elast the players know it is bad and has to improve. Mowbray has been saying it, we've been saying and now the players.

Mowbray does need a bit of time. I think he needs two or three more players for the type of football he wants to play to work properly. If he has to sell a few to get his men - so be it.

 

hmmm.

"We've been playing really poorly and just grinding out the odd result but we're really struggling. There have been a couple of matches where we've played okay but we've struggled in the last three or four.

"I don't know the reason for that. We've got the same players we've had for the past two or three years."

I think Aidan has accidently given us an insight into what the players are thinking (before he backtracked) and they are blaming Mowbray. Add the rumours of throwing peanuts at him and the Mowbray slagging players who were good enough to win a lot of silver in previous years and you have a pretty clear idea that their is no mutual respect between the players and manager. If they dont like him he wont get as much out of them as they gave in previous seasons when even if we were flat the players really bust a gut to the last minute to get the points. They are not doing that now.

 

It's a fair point. People have been slagging Mowbray for saying people have made mistakes but when McGeady comes out and says the team is struggling it seems to be fine.

 

How typical of you to put that spin on what McGeady said.

Ok then I'll put another slant on what he said.....

He said the team's been playing poorly and that we have the players we've had for the past two or three years. Perhaps he, like me, also thinks that Celtic have struggled for the last 2-3 years. Perhaps Aiden is hinting that the current squad of players at Celtic is not good enough. He'd be right as well.

See...we can all read what we want to read into what someone says if we try hard enough.

 

One of our better players at this moment in time, he tries very hard but it's unfair to expect him to carry this burden alone, it's about time they few more of our so-called " Senior Players " stood up to be counted.

Thanks for your honest assessment Aiden, I wish that we had more players with a similar viewpoint.

 

lol Now that is spin! I do not for a minute believe that you really believe that is what he means. His meaning is pretty clear. He is saying the same core players were much more successful snf played better football in previous years, so whats happened? I think he has a point. Over the previous 4 years I always thought the team has spirit if not huge talent, especially in big games and cruch moments with the exception of the last few months of last season. That spirit just does not seem to be there. Its like they are attempting to be more technical when in reality they are not. Their success was built on teamwork, tactics, some talent and a * of a will to win.

BTW ginger nuts is shocking disrespect for the 2nd most successful manager in our history. Mowbray has done nothing for Celtic but I dont go around calling him big nose or face ache.

 

At least you are saying that the spirit of the team disappeared before Mowbray took over.

 

Yeah and there were dips at other times too but teams are often flat and burned out in run ins especially when they have had CL group games earlier in the season. The difference is a new manager usually lifts a team and this is early season. The team look absolutely broken at the moment. FUnny thing is we have loads of tallented ball players. I think we do forget sometimes that there are many years in our history where we could only dream of real ball players like Maloney, Aidan, Naka, McCourt etc. There are not many Celtic FB pairings better than Hiinkel and Fox when on form. I would still maintain that on form and fit Broony is a special player. There is a lot more ball playing talent in the post-MON Celtic squads. So, I think our issues have been down to blend or perhaps weak links down the spine at CB, CF and CM. Funny thing is its low qualiry in those three more pracical areas that is the problem not a lack of ball playing talent. I think there are a lot of innacurate statements made about player quality.

 

They didn't play better football under Strachan at all. There's been no discernible difference in terms of entertainment so far, in fact if anything I'd say the football has been slightly better this season. The difference has been in missed chances and individual errors at the back.

This team had spirit 18 months - 2 years ago. It had no spirit last year. It collapsed feebly at the end of last season and that lack of urgency and ability that was so evident last season still looks to be there. The players aren't good enough and we all know who brought them here. Until Tony Mowbray can get a few more of the imposters out and a few more players in, who are open to his ideas and capable of carrying them out, then things are going to be hard. If he's given time to do that then I think things will improve noticably.

PS. Gordon Strachan is NOT the second most successful manager in Celtic's history so please stop saying he is.

 

What, when we lost the league after being 7 points clear?

Who could forget that?

Strachan lovers perhaps.

I have some sympathy for both Strachan & Mowbray as Lawell obviously had his bonus to protect, which involves us making a profit (I bet).

But both Managers have had their problems with this group of players, Strachan had his fall outs with McGeady & Mowbray seems to have upset a few probably including McDonald & Caldwell in the least.

Both managers have made some stupid tactical mistakes too & obviously bought some * players - all this adds up to what we see on the pitch atm & that is what McGeady is alluding too imo.

We have a board running scared of the financial crisis, successive managers who have had their problems with buying players, keeping them happy & playing them in the correct formation/system & players who can't take on board criticism/tactical instruction or who are basically just not that good really.

It all ends out with a poor product on the pitch & it's no-one persons fault, it's a collective resposibility that has to reside with "The Club". You can add us the fans too, as the players fragile ego's obviously canny hack getting booed off the pitch after getting beaten by Hearts & the like.


Phew.......where did that all come from?

 

Excellent post, can't disagree with much of that, although we haven't really seen enough of Mowbray's signing to fully judge them yet, although Fortuné needs to start showing what he can do pretty sharpish.

 

aye thats a no bad post mate! your too intelligent for being on here!!!

 

Mogga out CSC

 

I agree, but only slightly & it stems from the fact that Mowbray knows what the SPL requires & that he knew Fortune before he brought him to the SPL.

Fortune has been unFORTUNEate icon_mrgreen::icon_mrgreen with the injury, which hindered any momentum - but at 4million quid I am very suspect of Mowbray's ability to manage a small budget.

Thing is he has some previous in managing small budgets pretty well, which is why the board went for him (imo), he also has a good track record with youngsters, which would attract the board due to their 5 year plan.

He needs at least until the end of the season, I think he was a good choice - but criticising the players publically really backfired - but I can see why he did it, he's since resorted to going the other way ala Strachan.

This is turning into a Mowbray/Strachan debate - remember the MoN/Strachan ones we always got on here..?

 

cant forget these ones mate we had a few of them bad boys lol

 

He is the most over-rated player in the SPL since Barry Backpass broke into the Rangers team

you havin a laugh? there's more over-rated players than him (aiden)

most of the players we have at the moment my not be Mowbray's but he's workin with them everyday, and he still doesn't know his best team
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Not at all mate, wasn't having a dig at you. Sorry it came across that way.