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Who will/would you vote for in the next UK general election?

Discussion in 'TalkCeltic Pub' started by Callum McGregor, Oct 20, 2009.

Discuss Who will/would you vote for in the next UK general election? in the TalkCeltic Pub area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. Dempsey

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    So the people that are running to protect voters rights, against globalization dont give a * really?

    Whether you like it or not, "big business" & globalization has alot of people in work. Have you ever worked for someone else? Their business probably got grants from the government to startup. These 'puppets' have indirectly have you in a job and and give you social welfare when you dont. Do you claim child benefit? I bet you do.

    You opt out of the game but you still take any advantages that the game gives your way. Whats the word for doing that?

    The Irish Government or political scene dont inspire confidence at the moment, I dont like alot of the way things are run but I still vote, I have my say in how the game is played
     
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  2. Markybhoy

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    I'll be voting SNP. I know that only two parties can win the General Election but I flat refuse to give my vote to either of them. Both big parties only have eyes for Middle England and the South East. Labour have taken their support in Scotland for granted for far too long now and I'd love to see them get a good hard kick in their complacency. The sad part of it all is that if they do it will mean a Conservative government. If the Tories live up to their past performance where Scotland is concernes perhaps this will motivate enough people in Scotland to vote for Independence. That would be a very silver lining to a very dark cloud!

    PS. I hope the people who don't intend to vote won't be complaining when the governement does things they don't like, which they inevitably will. If you don't vote you forfeit your right to complain imo.
     
  3. gunt

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    The Torys are going to win. A vote for Labour or not voting will be a vote for Tory government in Scotland. The only possible escape from Tory rule is independence. Even when Labour win its a pretty Toryish Labour party.

    Remember you are voting SNP to secure independence NOT because you love the SNP. Look at Ireland. Sinn Fheinn was just a vehicle for independence and are now a very small minority party in the Irish Republic.

    Once independent the SNP will not really matter and we can change anything we want through further referendums (monarchy etc).

    Do not believe all the guff about Labour being a working class or tim party. That is ancient history. Labour need English middle class votes to get in in the UK elections so they will NEVER have socialist policies again. You are an absolute mug if you vote Labour because it is family tradition to do so.

    What we should be aiming for is socialism in a small country like in Sweden. We need to totally rebuild our society in their sort of image. We should scrap all the bleeding heart crap that protects neds and wipe nedism from the face of the country with a zero tolerance approach to it
     
  4. gunt

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    I agree. Middle England dictates Labour policy and has since the growth of the middle class there made it impossible for Labour to win on a purely working class socialist ticket. Socialist policies and the radical policys we need to heal this country cant be had in a UK.
     
  5. The The Hand

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    Sorry, not voting in the poll, cos it lumps the Greens in with the * BNP!

    I'll be voting Green (possibly SNP, if the marginal seat I'm in is on a knife-edge).
     
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    I never said that, I said
    that means no matter how many good intentions the politician might have for the good of the people it will clash with the profit making of big business and therefor the wee guy will lose out as always happens. More rules, stricter controls, more fines, more taxes, more job cuts. Its all about 1 thing and its money. By the time anyone gets to the top of the political arena they are already in the money mens pockets imo. If your not and you don't toe the line they'll try and crucify you like Tommy Sheridan.

    Any benefit I've claimed ever is only drawing from the money I've paid in all my working life. Thats the way I see it. No way does it mean I should feel the need to vote some * in a suit up to a position where he can enforce new bullshit laws and taxes against me. I am a free man and I live my life my way without the worry of legality of things made up by *.

    Dunno about that one was never very good at english.

    Ah well if you feel better by voting then good on ye, knock yerself out. You have no real say in what happens though in reality. Decisions are always made by the people in power against the wishes of the people.
     
  7. ScottishGhirl

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    Voting the green party is a waste of a vote! What they going to achieve?
     
  8. The The Hand

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    "Necessity"?

    There is no society in the world where it is possible to live outside jurisdiction of Government, or to opt out of all services provided by the Government-run society - e.g. water provision, air-quality legislation etc.

    And since there's no option on the polling card for "none of the above" - spoiled ballots don't distinguish between protest vote and simple error - how do you register dissatisfaction with the basic constitution of the society? To decline to vote seems as good a way as any. To decline to receive child benefit, for example, when you can't also decline to pay taxes, would be ludicrous, no?

    Me, I spoil my paper if there's no candidate I approve of. I always turn out. But that's a personal choice - the political effect is no different from sitting on my * at home.
     
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    Nothing but it's a vote less for Labour.
     
  10. The The Hand

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    Heh... that argument's obviously flawed, and the counter-example is pretty obvious for anyone living in Scotland.

    The SNP started off very small, and they were still small not that long ago - much smaller than the Greens are today. If everyone had taken your attitude, they would have died out altogether. Today, they are the Government of Scotland. Go figure.
     
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    I am aware that getting SNP in and creating independence will not mean a Scottish republic but SNP is only the vehicle towards that aim in my opinion.Once we have Scotland as a free nation then the real work will begin.

    Ideally for me we would become a Socialist republic ,only time will tell but i hope it`s in my life time.:50:
     
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    I'm a nationalist and want independence for my 'wee country' SNP for me.

    I cba getting drawn into the intricacy's so I'll leave it as simple as above.
     
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    too young to vote but plan to vote labour when im old enough to do so
     
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    Actually no, what gives you the right to complain a certain party is doing what you believe to be wrong if you choose not to try and change that ?

    You also say you dont believe in the system we have, well frankly if you dont try and do something about it - but still sit here and moan people are making an * of your country, you can take a right good * to yourself your opinion is useless in my eyes.
     
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    Being a human being gives me my rights!

    My human rights are:

    • the right to life
    • freedom from torture and degrading treatment
    • freedom from slavery and forced labour
    • the right to liberty
    • the right to a fair trial
    • the right not to be punished for something that wasn't a crime when you did it
    • the right to respect for private and family life
    • freedom of thought, conscience and religion, and freedom to express your beliefs
    • freedom of expression
    • freedom of assembly and association
    • the right to marry and to start a family
    • the right not to be discriminated against in respect of these rights and freedoms
    • the right to peaceful enjoyment of your property
    • the right to an education
    • the right to participate in free elections
    • the right not to be subjected to the death penalty

    If any of these rights and freedoms are breached, you have a right to an effective solution in law, even if the breach was by someone in authority, such as, for example, a police officer.
    Human rights : Directgov - Government, citizens and rights

    So their you go, I think the freedom of expression one about covers me posting my opinions on here.

    I really don't care how useless you think my opinion is to be honest. You know * all about me and how active I am in seeking change.
     
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    If I lived in UK I guess I would vote for Liberal Democrats.
     
  18. Dempsey

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    No it doesn't actually :56:
     
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    Thank * you dont live in the UK :rolleyes:
     
  20. Dempsey

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    I'd like to see the person happy to not have roads to drive on, get you own water supply for your house independent of the existing piped drinking water system, no access to imports, unable to export anything, no postal service and many more conveniences that we take for granted

    Do you think that you'd be given any state service if you were allowed to avoid tax? Anyways, its easier for eveyone that everyone pay taxes and have access instead of having public roads for tax payers and private roads funded by the people that dont want to pay taxes.

    Ludicrous, yes.

    He's complaining that state has somehow robbed him of something but yet it offers him welfare of various kinds and will support his kids and other stuff thats taken for granted.

    Yea, get into the system, try to change it but dont complain when you dont vote and the party in power isnt helping/listening you. Why would they? You didnt vote for them, they'll help the people that did.