Cars Hijacked In Belfast

Oh im sorry have i been imagining peace on the streets of northern ireland for the past 10 years or so?? Call sinn fein what you like but im pretty sure the majority of those living in the north on both sides of the community do not want to go back to the way things were... Violence solves nothing! If you actually read up on what happened the past few days and looked at the pictures you would see that its nothing more than young thugs thinking its great craic to burn a few cars and buses! If you even asked them what they are rioting for they prob couldnt even tell ya! Is this the way to a united ireland.... I think not! And worse still these young thugs stopped a bus of school kids ordering them of and burnt the bus, a bus that contained members of their own community weres the sense in that except scaring kids as young as 6!! Catch yourself on if you think these riots are going to achieve anything!

 

personally i dont think these riots will do anything for the cause but it * me off as well when so called irish americans start harping on about what we should do when most never even been to country, just remember one thing if/when a united ireland is created it will be us living in/working in it to create a better future for IRELAND AND ITS CHILDREN

 

All part of the normalisation proccess which has "Republicans" taking part in British rule in Ireland.
Similar to Fianna Fails ? They have had 80 odd years at trying to achieve liberation and have done nothing but disgrace Republican ideology.

There will always be people with views like mine in Ireland until the British withdraw. It really is as simple as that.

Republicans have always been in the minority. That doesn't mean we are morally wrong or incorrect, just that our ideology is unpopular.Republicanism isn't about peace, it's about re-unification.
What you call "peace", I call normalisation.

Young people resisting British occupation as they have done in the past. Do you have any links to this?

 

I know yeah mate

 

Oh taking someones life isnt morally wrong? Tell ya what how about you take of your rose tinted glasses and stop spewing republican crap at me! Unlike you iv experienced 1st hand what the violence of the north had to offer and honestly i prefer the way things are now to the way things were! My family is from a very republican backround some have fought for the cause of a united ireland but you know what they soon caught themselves on and realised that the only people getting hurt were the innocent by standers and i think the omagh bomb proved that to everyone! The riots that have happened over the past few days had nothing to do with resisting british rule it was just mindless vandalism! They took cars and vans etc from people who live in the same area and burnt them how is that resisting british rule?? Until you actually experience what its like to live in the north during violent times then i dont think you can comment on weather peace has worked or not!

 

I just want to say whoever robbed the drivers wallets yesterday and doused one driver in petrol and crashed or abandoned a vehicle at the holy cross ,what the * are these hoods doing,because stealing a mans wallet while burning his van has got * all to do with republicanism and is definetly not going to get the brits out of here.

 

While everyone regretted loss of life, the hard realities of the situation in Ireland must be faced.British government and British occupation troops remain in Ireland there will be Irish people to oppose their presence here.
How would you know I havnt experienced it? Not that it has anything to do with you but I have experienced it. As I did. The Omagh bomb proved nothing but the extent the crown forces will go to discredit Republicans. The riots most proabley over the arrest and treatment of Colin Duffy. Im from Ireland I have every right to comment on the situation in Ireland!

 

The republicans discredited themselves with the omagh bombing! They MURDERED innocent people and were did it get them? Did they achieve their united ireland? Treatment of colin duffy the young hooligans prob dont even know who he is! If he did commit those murders then he deserves a long prison sentence! I suggest you read the post above yours...bob has made the most sensible post of this thread! I oppose the brits being in this country but violence solves nothing, killing innocent people causes nothing but heartache and sadness!

 

The bomb was being tracked by MI5

The phones of the bombers were tapped by MI5

The explosives used in the bomb were stored by a Brit agent in Donegal with the aid of CIRA

The bomb copper fastened the peace process.

Some questions:

Why have the tapes of the warning calls not been released to the media?

Why would the RIRA bomb a majority nationalist town?

Why would the RIRA target a town were the 32CSM had it's only elected representative?

Why were civilians herded towards the bomb?

Why, despite a massive security presence, did not a single police officer or soldier receive any injuries?

Why was the case thrown out of court?

Why were two RUC officers proved to have been lying in court?

Why did the RUC feel the need to beef up evidence statements?

Why did a senior Garda detective tell another officer "We'll let this one through" when he was told of the cars heading towards Omagh

Why did no British forces attempt to stop the car considering they were tracking it and had the cellphones tapped?

Why was DNA testing carried out incorrectly on the remnants of the car?

Why was evidence incorrectly stored?

Who called the MI5 headquarters on August 4th warning of a "dissident gun and bomb attack in Omagh on August 15th"?

Why were the FBI tracking the car?

Why was the FBI's agent withdrawn from Ireland and sent to London 2 days before the bombing

 

Colin Duffy is being framed he doesnt deserve what has happened to him.
Yes, Bob is talking sense. Hoods have alwas hiacked riots. Peace doesnt work.

 

good questions

 

Wow talk about conspiracy theories! Im not even guna answer any of those questions coz the simple answer no matter how much you try to beef it up the rira was responsible for the omagh tragedy and they themselves have confirmed this, they were behind the attack simple as!! Your way of topic now so il guide you back on topic.... How have the past few days helped achieved a united ireland? How has hijacking cars etc helped end british rule?

 

there are a lot of genuine questions there that the families of those murdered in omagh would like to see answered.

that the r.i.r.a were responsible for the bombing isn't in doubt

but its valid to ask,seeing as the unit was being tracked,why where they able to carry it out?

 

Agree with everything mc'celts'fitz has said so far. I come from a very Republican family and we have suffered quite a lot through the troubles with numerous family members being killed, wrongly imprisoned etc. But the events that have unfolded over the past few weeks are not the work of real Republicans, I really don't think they have a clue tbh. Just a bunch of young thugs that seem to want to play the hero figures to fellow ignorant people regarding the situation in N.I.

They don't have strong support in Republican areas no matter what they may lead you to beleive. I don't know one person who is in support of any of their actions and I can't see that changing. The majority of people living here are disgusted.

 

It isnt conspiracy,its FACT! Yes, as you wouldnt be able to. The RIRA never said that, they said "minimal involvement" in the Omagh bomb: "Our codeword was used . . . nothing more. To have stated this at the time would have been lost in an understandable wave of emotion. That is the only detail on Omagh we're prepared to give at the moment."

It show resistance to the crowen forces

 

I know for a fact the rira were behind the omagh tragedy! Yea the families were left with unanswered questions and my heart goes out to them! You have failed to answer my questions tho what the past few days has achieved?

 

Who are you calling young "thugs"? Members of the armies or the rioters?
Who are you to say they are not "real" Republicans? What is a "real Republican" then? The British ministers in stormont getting paid by the Brits? They don't have a clue? How so ? Well seen as the majority of their members are ex PIRA they cant be to young . I know Republicans that back the CIRA and RIRA that have degrees and are very well educated so I don't know who your calling ignorant?

They do have supprot not a lot but when have Republicans?

 

Thanks claire its good to see im not on my own when it comes to being disgusted with the recent events! Would you want things to go back to the way they were in the 80s and 90s?

 

Well if you want to ignore facts, thats up to you.

My heart also goes out to the families of Omagh.

I have answered your question many times. The riots showed resistance to British crown forces, as in the past.

 

I never called anyone ignorant! And i know members of the ra and yes they are very well educated im not disputing that...what im saying is the riots of the past few days have had nothing to do with ending british rule! The majority of the rioters and hijackers were young people who aint got a clue, they just think its great craic to burn things etc a bit like what happened paddys day in the holy lands