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What has Strachan done this season?

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by nosoup4u, Jan 19, 2009.

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  1. ether67

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    sammy and skippy dont make a good partnership. that dosen't mean sammy is pish. he played well next to maloney. skippy and jan and maloney and sammy two totally different styled partnerships. its just unfortunate that one of each team are injured . give it time. both will come good.
     
  2. mmmikey

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    What has Strachan done this season?

    Is top not good enough anymore? Whats higher than first cos if I don't get that then sack the *
     
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    I know you dont mean it mate but very exstreme wording my man
     
  4. celticbaz

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    correct me if im wrong hammer not to take sides but is this not the thread starters very point in that we are at the moment having too much reliance on the fact rangers are in trouble both on and off the pitch and as a result we have over the last 3 years managed to take advantage ?
     
  5. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    They reached a European final in those 3 years, they're not as bad as is being made out.

    But yeah I get your point, there is too much emphasis on them. It's not a case of there shouldn't be any as there should, they are our main contenders and it's the nature of the beast we have to keep one eye on them. Just see SAF's interview last week regarding his obsession with whoever he is fighting it out for, for the title. That's the way football is.
     
  6. Dan1888

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    This is the only time you hear it tbh i bet you were saying different on the 28th of last month.
     
  7. nosoup4u

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    I wasnt intending this to be another sack strachan thread nor sammy is * balls thread. It's just the lack of signing's, the bad singing's of summer, the europe flop and the lack of decent football that i am conerned about. Im not saying sack strachan, but if he dosent change the team quick i.e. formation's, who start's new singing's and we drop to second, Im sure every one of you will want him out.
     
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    Injuries and resulting lack of fitness and match practice is dictating team selection alot and when you have to do that, form dips and team performances go down. People have to acknowledge that and not just put it as criticism.
     
  9. nosoup4u

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    I admit when Maloney comes back that'll be a major boost. Even when Big Jan comes back it will be a relief. But is Strachan willing to drop the top goal scorer (even though he is *) for Big Jan???
     
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    I'd be surprised if he didnt but usually managers wait for the following:

    Player coming back excels in a sub appearance

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    The form player has a bad game

    If Strachan just dropped Samaras whilst he's scoring he'd be accused of not giving players a chance and always sticking with his favourites.

    A fully fit and match sharp JVOH would be better than Samaras but we'd then go back to people complaining about JVOH's lack of pace and him choosing positioning over closing down defenders
     
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    This is not a "Strachan out" rant - BUT - I do believe the time has come for him to step down. Every manager has a shelf life - he should have gone out on a high at the end of last season. There is nothing to excite or inspire the fans - the football being played is really poor, predictable - results and empty seats back this up. If it wasn't for McGeady, there would be no one to get you excited.

    For me, Strachan is bringing this club down - other SPL teams no longer fear coming to Celtic Park. His patronisng attitude really annoys - how much longer can he go on saying the team is playing great and there are no major worries etc.

    You have to wonder how fit the players actually are - when you watch English games the pace is so much quicker.
     
  12. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    You are not excited by the prospect of winning 4 SPL title's in a row? Do you realise how enormous that achievement is?

    He's not bringing anything down, behave. He was the one that took the reigns on the back of a last day loss of the title and has since progressed in Europe and domestically from that point onwards, that is an undeniable fact.
     
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    That's not entirely true though, because we coped brilliantly for weeks when this bad run of injuries first started and was at it's worst. I don't think you can blame injuries for our performances.

    So what does that leave?
     
  14. nosoup4u

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    Excited about winnign 4IAR yes, excited when watching celtic, * no. Who can honestly say they are confident these days(by these days i mean this season) going into a match and coming otu with a result, not me for sure. I cringe each time we play knowing we can get beat by lesser team's. 5,8,12 years ago we would be beating these "lesser" teams with ease, 5-1 victories and so on. I have no confidence in the team these days, maybe it's the other teams catching up while were standing still or possibly we are on the way down. The only match's i expected us to win this year were against Aalborg and we all know how that went. Our games also lack excitment, clinical finishing, effort and heart. yes there is two or three player's who bring these qualities(not quality finishing) but as a team we should be striving towards this.
     
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  16. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    Martin in terms of success, the only ACTUAL yard stick that doesn't use personal preference, we have progressed.

    Why is that so hard to admit?
     
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    I hate to hear this claptrap getting trotted out. The Huns are only two points
    behind us, and have actually scored more goals and gave away fewer goals than us.

    So for *'s sake wake up and smell the coffee :47:
    We are mediocre ourselves. We need new players, and maybe a new manager at the end of the day.
     
  18. Martin

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    Hammer are we a better team than we were six years ago ?

    The answer is no. You know that and I know that.

    If we are a worse team now than we were six years ago, and yet now we win, hopefully, four in a row, what does that tell you about the SPL ?

    You seem satisfied with trophies and * football. I'd like trophies and good football.

    And btw what am I finding it hard to admit ? That we've won three in a row ? What's to admit ? It's a fact. We are not very good overall, that's a fact.
     
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    No *. Everyone will want that but most are happy to accept trophies first, good football second.
     
  20. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    Two entirely different teams, two different era's built with 2 polar opposite transfer and wage budgets.

    It's not as black and white as we've went backwards, I happen to believe that from the bottom upwards we've got better apart from the Larssons and Suttons who are irreplacable without £40 million to spend in the current market.

    We're fitter, we're not as 1 dimensional as O'Neill's teams all are; pace on the wings, good delivery from set pieces and giants at the back and we're more succesful.

    You can't admit in terms of success on the park we have progressed, you're still blaming every other factor than the fact Strachan built a team capable of winning things.