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Ross Barkley

Discussion in 'Transfer Rumours' started by P0gue Mah0ne87, Aug 8, 2022.

Discuss Ross Barkley in the Transfer Rumours area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. Notorious Gold Member Gold Member

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    They paid him off so he ls getting that regardless who he signs for


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    He will be 30 next year most you would get would be 5 million


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  4. Hammy89 Gold Member Gold Member

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    I think he'd walk it up here tbh.

    I don't want him at the huns and would have him here.
     
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    Host of others also perhaps
     
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    Can't see him ending up here, a lower end EPL or top end championship team with more money than sense would blow away any wages us or the huns could put on the table along with a fat signing bonus. The only way he comes up here is if it's a Ramsey situation and literally nobody else wants to touch him.
     
  7. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    If fit he definitely would.

    He has everything to be a success and in a dominant side there's no doubt in my mind.
     
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  8. stubhoy07 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Agreed. If there is any possibility of us signing him then am all for it. Be a good end to the window
     
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    Not just fit, has he got the desire and mentality as well. I would bet on no, when you think about it he was supposed to be a Gerrard/Lampard when he was younger and he didn't even really turn out to be a quality Everton player he was inconsistent for them and never lived up to the hype. Plus the money he's been earning has set him up for life.

    Maybe he is still interested and why he is reaching out to us and the huns but I wouldn't trust it as to be hyped up since you were a kid, fail really and spend years earning £100k+ per week and rarely playing for me you'd probably just not be that interested any more.
     
  10. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    If he signed for us then that immediately tells me he would have the desire as he'd be taking a significant wage cut/drop in quality of league to do so.

    It probably won't happen but if it did and he agreed to sign on the dotted line then that's any questions over his desire to play football immediately quashed for me.
     
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    He doesn't really have the ability to earn big wages though, his loan at Aston Villa a year or so ago was poor and he's barely played since so I don't think EPL teams have any interest in him which is probably why Chelsea have sacked him, if Chelsea knew even Brentford had an interest they'd have sold him instead of paying him off.

    Could just be trying to squeeze out one last 3/4 year deal on £40-50k a week before he retires, maybe even hoping he ends up paid off again lol

    Suppose it depends what he's looking for, if he was willing to take £25k a week on a 2 year deal he might want to play and prove himself.
     
  12. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    He'd still get a higher weekly wage, better bonuses and a higher sign on bonus staying at any EPL club though is my point.

    Hence why it'll most likely happen. Either that or he will end up in America.
     
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    I feel he is maybe seen like Delle Alli now in England though, not really like Lingard.

    Alli's spell at Spurs and Barkleys at Aston Villa have probably killed their EPL careers stone dead as they never really done anything. Not like Lingard who went to West Ham and done well and rejuvinated interest in himself. They are seen as luxury players who don't really do anything now.

    For Chelsea to sack him also I think is alarming, clubs aren't daft and if they weighed up their options and thought nobody is going to sign this guy now or in January and our only option is to pay him £110k per week for another 10 month or we could sack him now and save a maybe £500k or whatever then something must be up.

    You'd have to think they'd rather have loaned him out for 6 months even to a Championship team seen if he played well and tried to sell him in January even for peanuts but just to be outright sacked then they probably didn't think he's got the desire to even go out on loan to play.
     
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    Why Barkley is honkin, hardly played in years and had maybe 1/2 good seasons and injuries have caused playing time issues.
     
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    Just re-posting this from about 5 pages back, seen some absolutely mental comments like sell Matt O’Reilly and replace him with Barkley….. These are people who watched him week in and week out.

    I have copied and pasted this from

    toffeeweb - my pal sent me it as he is a season ticket holder at Goodison.


    When he emerged from the Everton Academy, Ross Barkley was considered one of the hottest home-grown prospects in the Premier League but his development has been seriously setback by a major injury. He spent a large part of the 2010-11 season recovering from a double leg break suffered on duty for England’s U-17 side.

    Barkley was eligible to represent both England and Nigeria as he has an English mother and a Nigeriangrandfather but estranged from his father, Peter Effanga, and using his mother's maiden name, he opted to represent his country of birth.

    Ross returned to training before the end of the 2010-11 season, around six months after his injury occurred in October 2010, but the versatile box-to-box midfielder would not be fit enough to make his debut for the senior team until the following season.

    On returning to fitness, he was promoted to the senior squad and went on Everton's 2011 pre-season tour of the USA, but had an ankle strain that prevented him playing against Philadelphia Union. However, he started the next friendly, against DC United, and looked very impressive, confident and assured for a relative youngster. This was followed by good partial pre-season displays against Birmingham City and Werder Bremen.

    Barkley was viewed by many as the successor to Jack Rodwell and by some as the next Wayne Rooney and it seemed he was destined to fulfil those expectations when he was handed his senior debut by David Moyes in a season opener against QPR. Everton lost the game but Barkley put in a man-of-the-match performance.

    A start against Sheffield United in the Carling Cup followed but his youth was exposed in a subsequent league game at Blackburn where his error led to a decisive penalty.

    Moyes reflexively decided he had promoted the youngster prematurely and was largely relegated to the Reserves despite the aching need for his spirit and drive in the first team. Preference seemed to be given to the likes of James McFadden that season, although it was later revealed that Barkley had been suffering a niggling injury and, given his history, the very over-protective approach to his development seemed to be justified.

    But Barkley continued to be overlooked going into the new 2012-13 season, and on the rare occasions when he did get to play, it looked as if somehow that classy confidence had been shot, and his only appearance for the Blues didn't really help with that — a shocking loss to lowly Leeds United in the League Cup in September.

    With a surprise number of new players being brought in by David Moyes in the summer 2012 transfer window, it became obvious the promising youngster from Everton's Academy would not be getting much of a look-in, so a month's loan to Sheffield Wednesday in the Championship looked like his best bet.

    More loans that season, initially extended at Hillsborough, then a month at Leeds United, followed and Barkley would have to wait for regime change at Goodison Park before he got his chance.

    Moyes's successor, Roberto Martinez, with his more attacking and less conservative bent was more enamoured by what his young protégé could provide as an increasingly important midfielder playing behind the front line and driving them forward.

    His 60-yard run and solo goal against Newcastle in the Catalan's first season will live long in the memory as an example of what Barkley was capable of at his unbridled best, and his instinctive curling strike against Manchester City in the last home game of the 2013-14 season was a beckoning call to England manager Roy Hodgson, who put him on the plane for the 2014 World Cup.

    Barkley was underused in Brazil that summer as England crashed out at the group stage but there was a sense of relief at Everton when he signed a new four-year contract in August, although the news was tainted somewhat when he injured a knee in training just a day before the start of the new season and was sidelined for a significant chunk of the campaign.

    He didn't ever scale the heights of his first full season under Martinez; indeed, he regressed to a degree, suffering crises of confidence which sapped his desire to run forward with the ball and take on defenders.

    There were signs that he was simply too slow in his thinking, too poor in his passing and lacking that prized possession of a "football brain" when he should have been maturing into a classic No 10 creative playmaker commanding the midfield. Martinez’s insistence on playing him wide at times directly contributed to his problems.

    Barkley played all but one of the games in 2015-16, scored and made more goals than ever before but the increasingly failing management of him and the team by Martinez saw him lost in an increasingly uncertain role, more apt to pass backward or sideways than drive forward.

    Barkley's form slipped so badly that, by the time Martinez was finally sacked in May 2017, his position in the England team for Euro2016 was in doubt. He would go to the Euros, but, along with team-mate John Stones, was entirely unused by Hodgson as the Three Lions bombed out of another major tournament.

    Incoming boss Ronald Koeman, challenged Ross to show Hodgson the error of his ways and he showed inside five minutes of the new season that he could rise to it when he scored from a free-kick against Tottenham in the 2016-17 season-opener.

    But the season would not develop well for Barkley, who found Everton's poor style and lack of movement ahead of him under Koeman frustrating, and that in turn led to him being benched with increasing frequency.

    The England international came in for public criticism from Koeman as the manager sought ways to get the player performing better and the tough love seemed to work as Barkley played an increasingly important role while Everton recovered from a dreadful pre-Christmas period to go on an extended unbeaten run in the New Year that eventually secured a seventh-place finish and a place in the Europa League qualifiers.

    The subject of a new contract, first mooted in the summer of 2016, then strangely shelved until the New Year eventually rose to the surface at the end of the season but what the club claimed was a very generous deal remained unsigned as that season had wore on.

    Koeman had made it clear Barkley would be put up for sale if he did not sign by the final game, implying that he couldn't wait around for him to make a decision while he needed to rebuild his squad over the close season. The ultimatum, which also suggested that things were far from happy between him and Barkley at Finch Farm, didn't have the desired effect and it wasn't until transfer deadline day at the end of August 2017 that matters appeared to come to a head.

    Despite sustaining a grade three hamstring injury that seemed to end any chance of a move away from his boyhood club, Chelsea came forward with first a £25m bid and then an offer of £35million, with Barkley reportedly accepting personal terms and heading to London for a medical. He stunned Everton at the eleventh hour, though, when he pulled out of the move, saying in a later Tweet:
    “Contrary to a number of reports in the press, I did not undertake a medical with any club at any point. I simply decided that due to my injury, it would be best to make a decision on my future and assess all my options in January when fully fit.”

    By the time the winter transfer window rolled around, those options still seemed to centre around Stamford Bridge and, a little more than four months later and having lost £20m in value, Barkley signed for Chelsea, ending his association with his boyhood club.


    Also just to add, go onto it’s a grand old team (Everton form) and see what the fans really think of the rumours of him going back there.

    They watched him week in and week out.
     
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    Interested to see who he would replace in our starting midfield from the people who want him signed.
     
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    The only way i would want him would be if we were to sell one of Turnbull or O’Riley.

    He would command big wages and im not sure theres been enough to suggest they would be warranted.
     
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    He actually fit's what the guy on KDS is saying..

    Midfielder that can play either side :fear:
     
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