Celtic statement

What changes happened ? Yes, imo, we do need an investigation to find out how he managed to get back because if that was helped by individuals they need to be dragged into the light as well and potentially face any criminal action deemed necessary.

Aye the club should speak to the victims but we should also be guided by what is right and not get overly hung up on being a PLC, which will be the next thing that could be used by some.

 

First it may be reported that Celtic rehired im, but it does not mean that is true. I would imagine Celtic BC rehired him. I know its not gospel as its on Wikipedia but I see 2 other names charged with sexual offences from Celtic BC in April last year.

As for the statement, I did not think we would send one out straight away. It would need reviewed by a legal team and PR team I would imagine in order to avoid further criticism without accepting liability on the Club.

 

But remember when he went "back"(if he ever left?) he was never convicted of anything and how do people know he even left the first time because anything was found out? he could have just left then went back or he could have owned them and just stopped coaching then went back coaching.

Is it actually proven that he was caught the and removed and then let back or is it just specualtion because people know he left? if he actually got sacked the first time who actually got him sacked then and have they ever spoke about it?

To me it's quite weird how this is spoken about or brought up a lot in Scottish football yet nobody actually seems to know any real details - like theres nobody you can point to who you know owned Celtic Boys Club, nobody who can say they got him sacked, nobody who says they hired him back? how come the guys been caught and jailed twice yet there is nothing you can actually read that shows us all the proof of what happened in what order and how it as was all uncovered

 

As Iltc says, it's not actually Celtics investigation, it would have to come from Celtic boys club.
Though I do get the emotional side that we should be doing more, if we can, but we can't investigate what isn't ours.

As for setting up any changes, although we can't make them at the boys club, the statement does come out and say that things have been done and put in place to try make sure this doesn't happen at any level of our control.

So even if we could do an investigation, we've already done everything that the investigation would eventually suggest we do.


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The safeguards that are in place is from the learning and we were the first to appoint a full time safeguarding officer..

There would be no criminal offence or charges to be levelled at anyone who let him back in, they were duped by him and are guilty of negligence and incompetency, but criminal no.

 

see the huns have started a pettiiton to get us investigated for the ''cover up''

 

See I don’t agree with that.

If the likes of Kevin Kelly and Jack McGinn knew about it(can’t see how they didn’t) and were happy to do business with him and let him back in then they absolute should face criminal charges.

 

Yes the * has been dealt with and while thats good, like many of us I suspect, I want to know how it happened - his connection to the Club/Who knew what/when etc. The fact it happened elsewhere can be looked at as well, I'm certainly all in favour of that also, but predominantly I bother about my own Clubs reputation Pad. An Investigation with the full support of the Club will help answer many of the questions raised regarding this * and his connection to the Club. I just don't see any downside to this happening.

You have raised more questions. I would like to hear some answers and I dont think I'm the only one surely, in an attempt to get to the bottom of this whole * mess.

That's assuming it was duped and negligence (although you can be prosecuted for that) and incompetency if it wasn't then criminal proceedings could well happen.

 

We didn’t have to own it to run it though.

It’s an affiliate club. Jock found out about Torbett and banned him from having anything to do with Celtic which means he had to leave Celtic BC of they were still going to have any sort of affiliation with us.

When Jock left then the board welcomed Torbett back.

 

I get how weird it is the Huns obsession with this is but * like this is the type of patter Huns come out with.

Sensitive story aye, but it absolutely should be the main story and everyone involved in it should be getting hounded until something is done and everyone is looked into.

 

Well sorry but I disagree, yes the statement was today from the club and it should be on the news but 3 nights running when STV haven’t done the same. Now tell me the BBC don’t have an agenda given it’s Daly who done The investigative programme and they are banned by that mob.

 

Not criminal, maybe Corporate Negligence..

 

For what offence tho ?

 

Daly, the same * who the Huns went mental at for going after Whyte, Murray, EBT’s?

Daly is probably the best, most prominent investigative journalist in Scotland and has been leading this story from the start. Of course it’s going to their top story.

It’s uncomfortable but claiming the BBC are running with it to try and get back into Ibrox is embarrassing.

 

Endangering a child?

 

I know who Daly is thanks, and it doesn’t change the fact 3 days it has been the main report. When do you see that apart from terrorism or brexit? And if you don’t think the BBC is biased then I think you’ve had your eyes shut the past few years, just look at the sportsound line up of EBT men. Anyway we won’t agree on this so no point dragging this off topic.

 

Don’t think so mate, not in this case. Don’t think it’s an offence in Scotland either..

The only criminal here is that scumbag, those who enabled him to operate were duped, incompetent, negligent or ignorant maybe all those things. But criminal, no.. unless you are suggesting they allowed him back to enable him abuse then that would be different.

 

Never said the BBC weren’t biased though.

Just said claiming they are running this story to try and get back into Ibrox is embarrassing.

 

You really think everyone who worked with him was duped etc? There’s a reason Fergus cut all ties with him straight away. Alan Brazil even said the Kelly’s knew about it all.

For me if they heard/knew/had suspicions or whatever he was a child molester and then invited him back into the fold and got into business with him, then let him run the football side again where he ended up raping more boys then they should absolutely be tried as criminals for me.

Even if they can’t be got at criminally then I’d want Celtic to go after them with a Civil Suit and give the money to the victims if they can.