Champ League V UEFA CUP

mate look at who were in them in the past few years.. compared to who used to play in them.

 

Despite huge changes to the format in 04/05? You're only fooling yourself there

 

They claimed getting to the last 16 was a better achievement than Seville when they first did it but obvious their tune will be different now.

In all honesty unless they win it - and please * don't let it happen - I think competing in the last 16 trying to reach the last 8 of the Champions League is what we should be aiming for.

There's a reason the team that finishes 3rd in the group stages go into the Uefa Cup, it's because they're not good enough to be with the 16 elite of Europe. Anyway hopefully that 120 mins will cost them against Hibs, and C'mon Zenit!!!

 

hammer, you've defended GS all season, and his brand has been dire, we lay down to Barca FFS

 

I've been harping on about how the Euro Cup format changes have made the standard of the competition weaker to make the UCL stronger, (thank G14), since last year. I havent been waiting for Rangers to get to the final to say this.

 

Hammer i watch a lot of spanish football and thats bollocks.

Barca were * before and after they played us.

If we went for them we'd have had a chance, we admired them.

At least against Milan we tried, and all credit to GS for that, but he took us back the way.

 

The Daily Record,all the hun media & the british media will hype this up (i.e. 3 british clubs in european finals), I KNOW, thats the worst thing. Journalist's investing in their own interest.

We played great clubs and won, they played 2nd rate ones and scraped through

 

Who knocked Spurs out ?

 

hammer, the spanish league i refered to, they have been pish

 

Good post hammer, this is fact.

 

Yea its the final of the same competition and yes they got there like us but they played against a lesser standard of opposition compared to what you would have gotten between 98-04 when the competition was at its strongest, G14 has made sure that all the strong clubs play in the UCL so TV revenue is maximised. Thats is an undoubtable fact.

 

Lets not be petty though guys. I'd rather bestruggling to beat a Rangers team in the league that were also doing ok in Europe rather than one that was dire.

I don't know whether it is Scottish football getting stronger or the rest getting weaker as the continued exodus to the EPL weakens the other big leagues but if you look back over the last few seasons the Old Firm have done much better in Europe.

Now we got through in the CL and they didn't, but it is always nice to get the chance of winning somehting in a final, but as far as i'm concerned to say as Celtic fans that you'd rather win the Uefa cup is saying you'd rather settle for being patted on the back for being a decent mediocre team. If the shirt doesn't shrink to fit the player then our ambitions should not shrink either.

Some of the teams rangers beat were not of the highest calibre compared to the Seville run but they can only beat the teams in front of them. More strange is the stat that they only had to win 2 games i think to get to the final?

Beating averages teams in the Uefa cup does not come close to the feeeling of the rush of playing Man Utd when Naka scored, beating the holders or else taking Milan to extra time over two legs the year they won the competition.

Saying you'd rather be in the Uefa cup is like Hearts fans saying they'd rather be in the 1st division because they would have a good chance of winning it. Old Firm fans are spoilt, we are used to winning things. But it is embarrassing that we are so spoilt that we can't take getting knocked out of Europe by teams that spend 100s of millions on players and we'd rather play against easier teams. If this was the case then Celtic shouldn't have bothered playing in Europe in the late 80s til mid 90s.

 

Excellent Post SwoopingVulture.

 

Would rather be in the last 16 of the champions league every season, when that draw gets made each year, some of the most powerful men in european football are there, and 2 years in a row now Celtic have been at that top table.

You make friends, get respect, now fair play to the huns for getting to the uefa cup final, but i think as a football club we have more respect now through out europe dining at europe's top table 2 year in a row, than we did getting to seville. not taking anything away from getting to seville, but the champions league is the only place to be come december, when the draw is made in nyon.

Come next Decembr match day 6 if we have a chance again of going to the last 16 again, any celtic fan who says they want the uefa cup are talking bull *.