just to put it out there

Do you honestly think that Catholic schools have some sort of top-secret, * curriculum? There's nothing to copy, it's the same curriculum that is taught in schools up and down the country.

 

Reported. Sly my *, i have openly admitted to being bigoted on multiple occasions. whereas you have not, and are clearly a bigot. I am bigoted, but not towards individual catholics, or protestants or muslims or jews, but to their religion in general.
I want secular schools, (you know, like in the whole of the Republic of France?)which part of that do you have difficulty understanding????

Of course you and your mates conveniently ignore what i say in black and white and turn it into your own little nasty shade of grey to suit yourselves, but no matter, it is clear who wants to discuss, and who cannot handle any form of debate without resorting to insults and accusations.

Standard post from you really.

My intolerance is towards religion in general, and whether Catholic schools admit 90% protestants and 10% catholics is irrelevant to me, but you dont seem to be capable of understanding that, such is your venom to anyone different from your perceived idea of who should be in here.

 

Really, you mean i resort to name calling, accusations etc.

What you should be saying is dont bother with all the usual suspects teaming up and resorting to * when they cant win an argument? Yes, i thought that was what you meant.

There are multiple others in here who hold very similar views to myself on this matter, and are indeed a lot more insulting at times and aggressive, but it is clear as day to me, that because i am from a Protestant background and thy are ex Cathiolics, i get it in the neck far more.

Clear as * day, and nothing nor any denial from those in question will make me think otherwise.

 

Of course i dont, i dont believe it is anything other than the disciple which is a side benefit of religion.

 

If you aren't capable of debating the subject without resorting to petty insults then it's probably best that you don't bother.

If this nonsense continues there'll be warnings/bans issued.

 

I actually understand where a lot of people are coming from regarding this issue, but i dont believe they are being openly honest.

I believe that in many cases, it is more to do with belonging, to retaining some kind of separate identity in society, (ie, Irish Catholic background)than it is to do with the supposed 1% better grades. Its about a 'community' and a fear of it being dismantled.

My father left school at 14 and he is very well educated, as were most of his generation, but it was through fear and discipline they learned.....and where in many parts of the country, society is a one parent mess, (not in any way saying one parent is anyone's fault or a reflection of them or their parent)in the Catholic community, it may be that very small part less broken down.....and it is reflected in the results in schools.

That is what i believe, but i am more than happy to hear different opinions, if you can have one without losing the plot.

 

I went to Catholic school and for me it's probably no different to non Catholic schools.

Only thing Catholic about it is probably in Primary school we said a prayer for about 10 seconds before lunch time, in Secondary we probably didn't do anything they don't do in non-Catholic schools that I can think of, was no praying or anything that I can think of.

The way people talk about it you'd think Catholic schools were all about religion and there was priests and nuns walking about and whatever catholic stuff going on but it's probably 99% like any other school with the only difference being theres probably more catholics at it than other schools.

As far as im aware we were never actually taught anything about Catholics in either school. MGM seems to be speaking like it's all about religion when there difference between a Catholic school and non Catholic school is probably like the difference between Tesco and Asda.

 

Not a single non-Catholic school has made it into the top 11 in Northern Ireland for A-level results.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/n...thern-ireland-schools-at-alevel-34679570.html

 

So let me get this straight, you think i'm having a pop at you because you're a Protestant? Aye very good

You're intolerance is clearly religion and folk who are religious - you cannot have an intolerance of a particular thing and NOT a clear intolerance of those who believe in said thing, so your POST is full of nonsense in that respect. But like you have been more than informed by others (not including myself) is that Catholic schools do not discriminate against other religions, or people of different backgrounds, so off ye go to France then if you, the hordes of inbred troglodyte huns, and any of the rest of the intolerable towards something so trivial.

 

The journalists name backs this up

:smiley-laughing002:

 

Th greens want non denominational schools , i have no complaints about it ,,,,,, BUT,,,,,,,,,,,, it has to be all religions , ,,,,,not just the Christian religions

 

They haven't said it is just the Christian religions though, have they?

 

I'm glad there have been a good few replies obviously an interesting subjetc

 

Give them a call ,i did. Ask them the questions that you feel are relevant , then you can draw your own conclusions,or read between the lines.

 

I think religion should be taught about in all schools. It's a massive part of the world, think if people were educated about all major religions there would be far less bigotry in the world.

 

Who did you speak to?

 

I completely accept everything you have mentioned mate, and i totally accept that the amount of religion involved is minimal, which to my mind only adds weight to the argument that schools should be state run and secular. If, as you say the amount of actual religion is negligible, then what is the point of them? What is the point in children from the same street going in different directions to school?

 

I agree with this.

 

Like i said, i say black or white, and you read grey!!! :smiley-laughing002:

I have no problem with people who are religious, how many times do i need to say it?? We have been over this ground in multiple threads and you deliberately (it seems) misinterpret everything i say. My mother was religious, i have friends who 'believe', my nieces and nephews are all religious (apart from one) and i have been surrounded by people who believe in * all throughout my life. I have no beef with them at all. Yes, i think they are misguided and wrong, but i have no interest in annoying the * out them with my views unless the discussion comes up. I know their views, they know mine.

I have a problem with the hold religions have over societies, not just here, but all over the world. When i see the Orthodox Jews at the wailing wall, and the muslims at the Hadj, it makes me sick inside with a combination of anger and frustration, that for me, they are blindly following an idea, a concept, without substance or evidence, all bound together by this magical word 'faith'. A word in itself designed to hold people, to prevent inquiry.

Its the same in here, i am friendly with many people from different standpoints on different issues, but it my view on religion that seems to get under your and a few others, skins.....but i do not understand why.

You say i am always in threads religion bashing etc, but i am not in them any more than you or SD or whoever. I dont jump into religious threads straight away, i usually sit back and read what others have to say and see where the thread is going, and then give my opinion, same as you, same as SD and same as others. I dont get angry at you believing or someone else believing and making your views known!!!

SD in particular, went through a phase of accusing me of being more anti Catholic and muslim than anti other religions.......which was completely wrong, but as i've said, mud sticks, and people like your good self may take notice and think it is right, without making the effort to ask me or check through my posts.

 

We have been down this road a few times.