Is Ronny still the man for Celtic?

Nobody is expecting us to get to the last 16 of the CL. All we ask is that we make a decent attempt at getting to the group stages and if we fail, then at least put in a performance in the Euopa League.

We might not have players like Larsson and Sutton etc, but we do have players capable of putting in a performance at EL level. Yet Ronny has defied physics by creating a whole that is substantially less than the sum of it's parts.

We might be * hot at training, but we're just * when it matters

 

Have you actually been watching us this season ? We are a * shambles and that's us much praise as I can give rony im afraid !!

 

We played well against Fenerbahce and against Ajax. Not having a settled defence has been our main issue. That can't be solely Deila's fault. He was given 3-4 million to replace Van Dijk, Denayer and Matthews and didn't have a huge amount of time to do it either.

We'll get there eventually under Ronny.

 

Calm your jets. It's still October. We are top of the league, in every cup and still very much in contention in Europe.

I'm not saying it hasn't been frustrating as *. But you can't expect to play "the Celtic way" all the time, especially with the deadwood and amount of players who are just not performing... I don't blame that 100% on Deila.

I'll make my judgement at the end of the season.

 

I don't think it's just tonight. It's that people fear going into the next UCL qualifiers when we give cheap goals away in every Euro game. They've had plenty of time to work on this but we are still terrible.

 

No we wont sorry , the board without doubt could have gave him more help , but theres absolutely nothing positive to take from ronys tactics or management other than he is a likeable guy !! Have our standards fell that much that some of us actually believe we are heading in the right direction ? Ffs even the spl is becoming a struggle

 

Plenty of time to work on what? Were they meant to look into their crystal ball and see that Boyata wasn't going to be good enough, Van Dijk was definitely going to leave this summer, Simumovic was going to be made of glass and Blackett wasn't going to be trusted at CB in Europe because Ambrose is "more experienced".

The only tactic they could use to concede less would be getting 11 men in the goal and just blocking whenever came, doubt that's what they have been working on.

It must be difficult to train to attack teams and break them down week in week out, then suddenly play a team with quality and realise you can't play the same way.

 

Aye, clearly the board is * skint, but that said we should be able to put up some kind of team against a club like Molde, even with the money Ronny had been given. Clearly there is not one CENTRAL PERSON at fault, even I know that, its a combination of the manager, and the board for not backing up the manager.

The last time the board reporting earnings things were looking quite grim, and right now I think they are mostly concerned with continuity of this club, we don't want to go down the path of our "neighbours" on the other side of town. Thats all well and understood. But if this club is to be billed to the fans as a club that is meaning to compete in Europe, then the manager needs to be backed with the funds to at least put on a show in the entrance level of European competition, and we haven't even been given that.

I don't know what it is going to take, a foreign investor to come in, and give us what we need to have the team we deserve to have to compete in European football? Are Celtic fans even comfortable with something like that happening? Some wealthy Arab or Russian just taking over the club to do fuckall he wants to do to it who doesn't understand our ethos?

I think there is a tough road ahead for Celtic. Its not going to be a "glorious" time to be a fan in the next 5-10 years or so. I don't think its going to be as bad as the 90s were, but it will be the worst this new millenial generation has seen, for this club, a generation of fans spoiled with European success, CL-quality lineups, and even a European final. Just grin and bear it, is all I can think. Things will get better, I hope.

 

We have Won 8, Drawn 2 and Lost 1. That's not a struggle. It's only a struggle to some because we are not winning the every game by 3+ goals and Aberdeen started the season on fire.

 

He's by no means perfect tactically and I thought he got it horribly wrong against Molde, but to say he hasn't shown anything positive as a manager is unfair.

We had no right to go to Amsterdam and get a point, our tactics ensured we did. We outplayed Fenerbahce for about 70% of the game and Ambrose * us over severely, was that not down to tactics?

To be honest with the exception of last night I have been more impressed with out performances in the group stages than I was last season. We were good away to Salzburg but that was it.

I think we've made clear progress in terms of our attacking play, but our defending has been horrendous, but that's mainly down to not having a settled back four.

 

We are heading in the wrong direction that's the whole point , yup we are still cruising along domestically but I can assure you that would be the same under any manager !! When average European teams are sticking it to us its time to wake up ....as I said earlier have our standards and expectations fell that much ?

 

It's just basics. I don't think Boyata even looked up when he played that pass that lead to the first goal. It's something that he needs to work on as he does it a lot.

Also, Ronny looked lost on what to do in terms of how to change the game. He is too loyal to Johansen.

 

In any other league we absolutely would NOT be cruising along domestically.

What he is saying is that it is not JUST Ronnys fault, surely you know that too?

 

Theres one other team worth a * in the spl and that's being kind , remind me how we faired against them ? Wake up ffs as soon as we step out of Scotland we look totally out of our depth !!

 

We struggled against ''average sides'' away from home in Europe under Martin O'Neill, Strachan and Lennon.

I think it is reasonable to expect as Celtic fans that we are going to take the odd beating away from home in Europe, especially when we reach the proper stages of the competitions.

We haven't won an away game in the UEFA cup since Boavista FFS.

 

Im on about the spl ,are you saying that any joe soap couldn't come in and win the league managing us ? For me anybody with a football background could and if that's the case please tell me why you think rony is worthy of keeping his job ?

 

Aye we lost. It's called competition. Remind me of who is top of the league?

Honestly. Some people actually expect us to win every game domestically. On paper we should, but that's not realistic. Ronny almost won the treble last year... When he actually had a decent squad to utilise. The manager can only do so much.

I don't rate Collins or Kennedy at all.

 

Someone mentioned our away record in another thread. Look at WGS's first 2 games. 5-0 vs Bratislava and 4-4 vs Motherwell. He fixed it. It might not have been pretty after that, but he made us hard to beat.

 

Please don't go down the road of comparing the shambles of last night to the managers back then!! Sure we had bad nights in Europe but by * we had more good ones , can you say the same under this manager ?

 

Not at all but does it not ring alarm bells when the only serious rival we have took us down ?