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Why is Griffiths still underrated by our support?

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by The Thumb, Oct 6, 2015.

Discuss Why is Griffiths still underrated by our support? in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. Green And White

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    Fair points.

    But naturally a taller and more physical forward will an advantage when holding the ball up.
     
  2. Sonny7

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    No he wasn't:smiley-laughing002: How was he more complete when he wasn't good at long range shooting like Griffiths, was shocking at headers and doesn't have much pace.

    If you think Hooper was better fair enough each to there own but don't say he was more complete. A striker should be good at shooting whether it's in or out the box and they should be good at heading the ball as well.
     
  3. Sonny7

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    Wow that is exceptional from Hitman Leigh.

    No to forget Deila shoved out wide as well when he took charge.

    Or not to forget Griffiths is in a much much much weaker team than the three others.
     
  4. wulliebad

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    preemptive strike.:icon_mrgreen:
     
  5. Liam Scales

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    He does that while scoring a wide range of goals. He could not do that and still score a wide range of goals if you'd prefer?
     
  6. Liam Scales

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    I really disagree mate, if asked who I'd want for that type of play in football just now I'd say Messi or Ageuro.
     
  7. Green And White

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    Its hard to find a complete package up front these days. Ibrahimovic fits the description of a full package.
     
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    Aye Zlatan has it all, skill, heading, link up play, passing, movement, shooting close or long range and even decent pace for a big lad
     
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  10. celtic warrior

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    I don't think he's underrated anymore then perhaps people are just over critical of him.

    If Leigh scored more of his chances in todays climate be just wouldn't be a Celtic player.
     
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    In don't even think it's over critical, just that you can see so much scope to improve and already good player. I don't think it's a bad thing to demand that improvement. If it goes another year or two and he's the same you'd say fair enough, that's just him but with the way he works and his attitude you know there's more in him and we could get that out of him.
     
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    39 goals in 49 starts is ridiculous, didn't realise it was that many.
     
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    I think the majority of us appreciate him

    You'll get the odd one complaining about him but Wanyama, Van Dijk etc all had wee stupid comments against them as well even at their best.

    I do think we need another top striker though. It will only spur Griffiths on to have some decent competition I think.
     
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    This shouldn't even be up for debate, "Wasn't as good at long range shooting" lol man. He wasn't shocking at headers either he scored quite a few good headers for us I will agree though its an area of his game that isn't is good as Griffiths. I'd also say Hooper was faster, he had a really good turn of pace. More complete means he's better in Griffiths in more aspects of his game it doesn't mean every aspect but the point you're making about Griffiths having a better long range did on him is pretty laughable as a main point in arguing Griffiths is a more complete player.
     
  15. Senna s1979

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    Even his total of 79 appearances and 39 goals is still * good.

    That's 1 in 2 as * near. That's exactly the type of strike ratio we have been crying out for since Hooper.

    He's doing well in the goals department and is obviously working hard to become a better player.
    We have to celebrate both facts.

    I was quite * off when we first signed him due to his Skacel incident, but by * has he given me reason to love him.
     
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    You have to reckon by the end of the season he'll have better than 1 in 2.
     
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    Can we add in the 22 substitute appearances to that 50.

    So 37 in 48(22).

    Which is still a very good record.

    I know I'm coming across as negative, but me and others are pointing out the fact he still needs work to become a complete lone striker.

    Look at Kris Boyds record for the deid huns

    151(39) appearances
    127 goals

    Again, unreal scoring record but a limited player.

    We need a different option. Might be Carlton Cole, but we lack a physical presence up front. Someone who can hold the ball up and bring others into play when we are under pressure. Hopefully Griffiths works on this side of his game and saves us a few bob, but we can't be sure at this stage that he has the ability to get to that level.

    For the record, I have nothing against LG as a person. Purely football related opinion.
     
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  18. celtic warrior

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    You know what's depressing about the fact the Leigh's turn around shows that he could be capable of doing so much more?

    If he fulfils that some cunting team with money will come asking about him and his price tag which our board will sell at of met.

    I feel like of he started scoring even just 8 goals every 20 chances if that's not something he is already doing we will lose the sodding * because our board will see money to which point fans will start hating on him for moving.

    I just feel think Leigh will end up splitting fan opinions like Stokes and Sammy even though he'd put in the performances more then those two. He can't win I don't think.
     
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    That's also an unfair comparison for Griffiths because he has got far more to his game than Monster Munch. It's just... there could be ao much more to him and I really, really * want him to hit his highest potential.
     
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    I'd prefer him to do all that but to do much more in other aspects of his game also, I'm not saying Griffiths isn't quality with some aspects of his game he's just neither intelligent or technical enough to be able to cause the opposition problems with his link up play, it's a real problem he doesn't bring our attacking trio into play and his hold up play is also a real problem, there's no getting by this.

    I think he can get better with his hold up play which mainly for me is lacking due to him having a poor first touch and a lack of flair and guile when shielding the ball, he's just not got in it him just now to bring a ball under control feel a defender and turn him or get into space to link up.

    I have fears about his intelligence though and having a football brain is something which can be a lot harder to work on, he's a poacher, he wants to score goals its never been on his mind how he can bring the other into play with his movement or how to link up in and around the box, his first thought his full career has been about scoring - how he can get into a position to score and about how he can get a shot away. I'm unsure if he can make a transition to find the right balance between the two.