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Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Celticbhoy97, Jul 14, 2014.

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  1. JC Anton Get yer, hats, scarfs badges & tapes

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    No we signed him from Club Nacional pretty sure our partnership with Santos started after he left:shamrock:

     
  2. Damnati

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    Pretty sure that we signed him from Pumas but yeah he had nothing to do with our Santos partnership. It is strange. Nothing seems to happen with any of these partnerships we create. Our biggest link is Marc Crosas and that is just pure coincidence.
     
  3. SpringburnBhoy

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    Yes you are right,and Pumas laughed all the way to the bank.
     
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    USA vs Portugal game had significantly more viewers (25 million tuned in) than the NBA Finals, baseball World Series, or NHL playoffs averaged.

     
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    I moved over to the U.S 6 months ago and the league is actually a very good standard and to say its not thought of as a popular sport is totally wrong. I thought this as well but its probably the most progressive of all the sports and thats backed up by the world cup fever that took over. Everywhere was showing every game and places were packed to watch most games.

    People who are commenting that footballs not taken off here don't have a clue what they are talking about and are well off the mark!

    They have got the set up right and kids of all ages all the way through to scholarship college teams so anything celtic have set up here is a positive and not just for a bit of media.

    I'd probably put the overall standard of the game here on par with the english championship (maybe slightly generous but not much) and it won't be long until its better.

    I'd just like them to sort the league structure better but apart from that they are constructing state of the art new stadia for teams as well as amazing training facilities. It be interesting to see how beckhams new team in miami get on.
     
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    One of the main reasons football/soccer won't really take off in USA , is that unlike baseball they are not guaranteed to win THE WORLD series everytime.
     
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    Breathtaking insight
     
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    Completely ignoring your inanity but using this post to address a larger point:

    Read a Guardian article talking about how the US liked this World Cup because we "finally" got to support an underdog. The idea seemingly that the US only supports teams that win all the time. But our biggest national sporting event was the "Miracle on Ice" against the Soviets and underdog stories are regularly the most commonly reported narratives of any given season. Look at Boise State in college football, "Cinderella" teams in the College Basketball finals, the Oakland A's in baseball (beating the big spenders on a shoestring budget for over a decade), the San Antonio Spurs (the same version but for the NBA), etc.

    Another idea is that US channels resent it for the lack of advertising time. This is also not very accurate. Pre-game and post-game shows regularly carry the ratings through another hour, plenty of commercials there. In addition, the biggest age group watching soccer are young people, and that's who advertisers target. So they'll pay more money for those commercials, so our media is interested. It's so bizarre to see this accusation when there has been a large uproar here recently from anti-soccer people that the World Cup was shoved down their throats. This idea is just so divorced from reality that you can't think it unless you have no clue what you're talking about.
     
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    Once again, it's a complete myth that football is not taking off in the US. The match the US had against Portugal, for instance, had about 24m viewers....more than what this years NBA Finals had and last years World Series got. Any time I have flipped over to a MLS game, the stadium's have been pretty much packed out as well. Football in this country has been getting more and more popular and if this is football "not taking off" in the US then I can't wait to see what the place would be like when it does.
     
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    By the way, PDA (one of the clubs we're affiliated with) just won the U17/18 national championship at the highest level of youth soccer here. This was after losing their best prospect to England. He has a Romanian passport so we should have signed him. If he turns out to be good it's criminal that a kid from our youth affiliate with a Euro passport slipped out of the net.
     
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    That would be a wonderful stat if it were true.

    On the same day as Italy vs. England in the WC, a hurling matched outdrew it for 8.7% of the population. It was stated to be a high rating. Is it higher than the World Cup in the US? Yes, by .7%. And I'm sure the final will be higher, looking online it seems it draws in the 10-11% range. But it's just factually incorrect to claim that it regularly draws double than 8%.

    You might be confusing this with market share, which is a different statistic and requires some knowledge about the subject to discuss.
     
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    Deigan. What are you talking about on the day of the England and Italy match You are talking about an early round match in theleinster or Munster series I am talking about official viewing figure of 800, 000 and more watching All Ireland Hurling and Football finals year in year out . Top World Cup Qualifying . European finals in Rome . World Cup finals in the States etc and European Cup Rugby finals as well as top 6 Nation .
    In fact you are actually making my point , when an early round match attracts a bigger viewing audience than the United States does in their most advanced game ever in the World Cup. Please don't try to mislead people .


    I imagine market share would go over your head , so I will try to keep it simple .
     
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    Ehhh, that was my point though. I said that for the big events and finals Ireland would outdraw, but that for the "regular matches" it's hardly 2x. I basically said "the finals will be huge but the regular matches are only barely larger." And your response is "no, you're wrong, the finals are huge." Because you can't compare soccer ratings in the US to GAA or even soccer ratings in Ireland. You have to compare it to NFL or NBA ratings in Ireland, because that's where they were just 20 years ago. People claimed that it is taking off, and the fact that we're even arguing about it in regards to GAA in Ireland proves that. Because NFL is still obviously #1 in the US, but that's the target.

    This was going to be my next point. Even if proportionally it's not the same in raw numbers we still have 8x as many people watching as live in Ireland. You also have to remember that the US, like Australia, is a regional place. The games in California (40,000,000 people) were the highest rated across the whole country. Just because people in Nebraska and Idaho aren't watching it doesn't mean it's not growing in other places.
     
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    Trust me I know,the other guy is way off.
    The game in the US is becoming very big,the football is becoming very good,the crowds are getting bigger and as I said before you will see more kids playing soccer/football today than just about any other sport,and that can only be good for the sport and the kids.
     
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    We could say just because people in Leitrim or Wicklow are not watching , it doesn't mean they are not watching elsewhere.
    The most important game , one single game in the states attracted less than 8% of the population . Yet on a regular basis every year important games in various codes attract twice the percentage and more . I would suggest that the viewing year in year out for important football games ( soccer ) would be about half of their less than 8% .
     
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    Oh *:31: