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The Ronny Deila Thread

Discussion in 'Ex Players' started by Glasgow_Bhoy88, Jun 6, 2014.

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  1. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    So, you are getting that from 70 minutes of game time?

    Interesting.
     
  2. Spring Time Gold Member Gold Member

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  4. UsernameCeltic

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    Upsets happen. Same at any club under any manager. Need to just get on with it sadly
     
  6. Maestro 08

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    Exactly this. I was just coming on to make this point. He more or less kept the same formation which left us completely exposed in midfield. We ended up as a flat 4-4-1 & when Johansen went to press the ball a Ross county midfieder just pulled into the space he vacated & they were in at our defence.

    The system you've suggested is exactly what I think he should have done. Kept a narrow midfield and keep things tight then use the pace of GMS on the break as County pushed onto us. If Tierney & Lustig went forward then Bitton & McGregor (or Johansen) should have sat in to provide cover, that would have given us our width but offered decent protection from the counter.

    Instead he kept things the same and kept trying to push forward which was suicide. It was just so naive and that's the biggest worry for me & why I'm starting to turn against him.
     
  7. TicFan88

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    Terrible result tonight, absolutely gutting.

    Still believe in Ronny though!

    :50: :shamrock:
     
  8. fourleafclover

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    He has had plenty of big game errors to have learnt from his mistakes.

    The Legia nightmare in is his first year should of had alarm bells ringing.

    He should of been changing the tatics at HT when we were 2-0 up against malmo and then again when we got it to 3-1

    Against Molde he admitted they were a counter attacking team and still we played our usual formation/tatic which suited them to a T.

    I really hoped he could deliver what he promised at the start i just don't see it. Can't see no proof of him learning from his mistakes and learning how to change things mid game.

    Most of the players have not helped him during these big games and was the same again today.

    We badly need a DM - who's only joy in life is to spend 90 mins performing 50/50's and taking the ball off the other team.

    We badly need another CB that is a proper defender.

    We need wingers who have some pace,skill and end product. We need guys that can create width and run at teams.
    We rely to much imo on our full backs having to overlap so we can get balls in the box.

    We get away with this domestically at home. But without a proper DM protecting the CB's we are just leaving them both exposed having our full backs going gung ho for 90mins.

    If he continues with the 3 behind the striker it would be useful if these are actually half decent or composed when it comes to finishing - i only give rogic pass marks for this.

    We play nice stuff at times. Played a lot of teams off the park domestically. But as soon as we r up against it the team is weak , really weak. That is from the staff down to the players.
    No fighters apart from Brown and tierney .

    I feel major changes still needs to happen with this team
     
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    But think of how shampoo his replacement could be

    But we shouldn't be really expected to beat anyone in Europe

    But he's had tons of abuse, in fact one time someone called him a fud

    But the 90s was worse

    But think of the long-term vision

    But we are Celtic supporters, faithful through and through

    Okay Europe was a disaster, but we can't sack a manager on the verge of a treble

    ^^^ previous excuses from fans.

    Today was Ronny Deila's 100th game in charge, with a record of 64-18-18. During that time we've witnessed the following:

    -Failed to qualify for the Champions League in consecutive seasons, as the seeded team in every round
    -This included losing 6-1 on aggregate to Legia Warsaw before an administrative reprieve
    -This included losing 1-0 at Parkhead to NK Maribor, in spite of a good away result
    -This included losing 4-3 on aggregate to Malmo, despite taking a 2-0 lead in the first 10 minutes at Parkhead
    -Lost consecutive games to a 6th placed Norwegian team
    -Lost and was tactically outwitted in 5/6 games to fellow Norwegian managers
    -Overseen Celtic being eliminated from the Europa League with a game to spare
    -This was first time we've never won a game in a European group campaign
    -Overseen Celtic concede 40 goals in 26 European games; none of which have been in the Champions League proper
    -Overseen Celtic go 11 consecutive Europa League games without winning
    -Overseen Celtic win 4/22 European games, outwith Icelandic part-timers

    Not to mention none of his supposed attributes have come to light. While he's introduced Tierney and improved Griffiths, many players have regressed (notably his fellow countryman). We are mentally weak, witnessed by many games under Deila where we've taken the lead and not won.

    We are a defensive shambles, no matter the personnel. One recent example being us keeping 6/22 clean sheets since October. He subs the wrong players at the right time and the right players at the wrong time. He leaves decision making until it's too late. He is tactically woeful, and doesn't know how to alter beyond a slight variation of a 4-2-3-1 formation.

    He claimed Celtic would be a super fit team, yet we constantly lose steam in the last half hour of games. The high pressing is gone. The style of football isn't innovative, it's just sideways passing and waiting for the opposing defender to slip up and let Griffiths in on goal. Our crossing is poor, corners predictable and free kicks never leading to a goal. Our build up play is non-existent, movement static. In home league games, we've mainly been found out to the extent of resorting to long balls to Carlton effing Cole. As for his signings? Let's not even go there.

    Generally speaking his league record is fine and we all enjoyed that 3-3 draw with Inter Milan, but in order to negate all his European failures and general regression, in my view winning a treble was the only solution. With that destroyed, I don't see how any Celtic fan can have any confidence or trust in his management.

    Like Mowbray he is a very decent man, has his heart in the right place and is a good role model. But his track record leads me to the basic summation that people like the idea of Deila, rather than the reality of Deila.

    We will never, ever be in the Champions League with Ronny at the helm so I pray he is put out of his misery at the end of the season, regardless of whether we win a double or not.


    Stole this from another forum, but found it a very interesting post, and there ain't much I can disagree with tbh. I'd love to know how those still behind Ronny can counter some very interesting and factual points, or is it just blind faith for some?
     
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    sums it up well
     
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  13. Maestro 08

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    Massive game for him coming up now I feel. If we lose I think he could be on his way. The scenario being that If we only add to the Sviatchenko signing with the City loanee then this will go down as another underwhelming transfer window. With the fans irate about that, a cup Semi final loss and to compound it all, a loss against the sheep the fans will turn on the board & they in turn will sacrifice Ronny to take the heat off.
     
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    They would have to go some, to get a bigger dud than Ronny. I believe some people let the fact he is a likeable guy get in the way of rational thought. This is silly. Incidentally I still like the guy, its not his fault celtic were stupid enough to take a gamble on him, but he needs put out of his misery sharpish. He will be fine, he will go back to Norway and get another job in management.
     
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    We've always had the odd absolutely disastrous, embarrassing result over the years, under Ronny we've had far too many. Not al his fault as the standard of player has reduced, but really don't have much faith in the guy. :54:
     
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    Cracking post, the guy is taken us backwards we should be light years ahead and him and the board has done this, not only should Ronny go but all the management at the top should hang their heads in shame and be shown the door.
     
  17. Roy's Keane

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    Because he's acheived more than his predecessor in the same amount of time. Quite simple really.
     
  18. Bratfurdbhoy1

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    Can someone screenshot the poll now- then put up fresh one and see who is prepared now still to put up with Ronnie Corbett!!!!See the differrence in the months. I don't think it will be good viewing.
    My problem with Ronnie. Is his high pressing game is hiding somewhere up at Lennoxtown. His substitutions are totally wrong at times. He cannot motivate our bhoys when the chips are down- this one gets me the most as all I want is a passionate manager who will jump up and down like a derranged monkey will urging our bhoys on.
    Any team in the SPL can beat us fact- this just is not the Celtic way.
     
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    Any team can beat us in the SPL is fact?
     
  20. Bratfurdbhoy1

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    It might not be totally factual yet. But you cannot really sit before every SPL GAME thinking that we will not be beaten by teams who should be way worse than us.
    We have got worse over the past few years.
    We would do will to beat Sheffield Wednesday never mind the teams in Europe.
    We all want to be confident before each game and I am not.
    I actually said to one of my non Celtic mates to put money on Ross County at 7/1.......Maybe I should have done it myself but I just can't bet against Celtic. This shower playing now really need to buck up thir ideas.