The Ronny Deila Thread

At least we are still in with a chance of winning the 2016 champions league

 

A few more results like this and the board may not have a choice. :smiley-laughing002:

 

Big candidates are available right this minute. We should be doing everything to temp the likes of a Moyes with a package right now!
He was at Celtic park the other week, whoever let him escape out the door, needs hunting.......Ronny.

 

Do you honestly believe that our board don't know that Moyes is out of work at the moment? That they're just sitting around with their finger up their arses not giving a *?

Do you think that they don't know that our qualifying for the Champions League means more money and a better bottom line for them to tell their shareholders about?

I honestly believe that if a better candidate was available right now and willing to work with what we can offer, we'd be bringing him in.

In my opinion it is reason not to try again. The days of paying an unknown and untested manager a couple of hundred grand a year to do a job that provides the club with so much revenue should be over.

Sure, with the right scouting department and signing policy we can sniff around for cheap players, but a manager is a different kettle of fish.

Just because we got it right with Lennon doesn't mean it'll work again and again.

We need to be paying a manager the going rate for someone expected to qualify for Europe's premiere competition more often than not, but the board likely won't do that.

 

More disbelief that people are still happy to stick with Ronny at this point and the arguments they're using to defend their position. Is genuinely laughable though that people can use 'chance of a treble' and 'can't get anyone better in' considering we've essentially only had to win two domestic cup games to keep the treble alive at this point and our European record under Ronny is utterly pathetic.

 

Doing nothing isnt an option. There cant be anyone who seriously thinks that Ronny is capable of taking this team into the Champions League. He was out thought tactically by a journeyman Manager today, and not for the first time.

Fans really think we should keep him because we might not get anyone better? There is a real chance if we dont, then we will be in the same scenario next season. Out of CL, out of EL and playing poor poor football.

 

So, you think we should punt him even if there's no one better who's available and willing to work under the constraints that our board place on our manager?

Makes sense.

 

I've said countless times that the Champions League is no longer our level. To play on that platform on a regular basis you need to be willing to finance the team and management more than what our board appears willing to do.

And before someone jumps in with the names of sides who've beaten us these past few seasons go and check to see how often they make it to the Champions League group stages, because I'm not talking about small clubs who make it once every now & then, I'm talking about making it regularly.

We cannot go out and recruit as we have been of late and expect us to make it to the top table of European football on a regular basis.

 

We cant compete with teams such as Malmo and Maribor to make it to even the Group Stages? We cant even have that level of ambition??

If thats the case then keep Ronny. He's doing a great job.

 

Are we now to see qualification to the Champions League as a bonus? Is qualification for the EL now our target and any wins we get in it to be cherished?

Personally I would set my sights much higher.

 

As opposed to the alternative of keeping a manager we know fine well is tactically inept and has little chance of ever taking us to the CL group stages, then yeah, we should sack him and give the new man 6 months to get his ideas across. Honestly, just on the players performances this season, do you believe the players are buying into Ronny's vision?

And do you honestly believe there isn't a realistic alternative out there who could've picked up a single win in our last 11 Europa League matches?

 

Mythical trebles and mythical resurgent Aberdeen.:bbpd:

 

Even though you quoted me, you simply disregarded what I said about the smaller sides we've lost to of late, haven't you?

 

Identity ? Way of playing ?

Right now the team has a system (4-2-3-1) but no identity in style of play.

Attacking wise - what are we ?
Possession team like a Barcelona model ?
Counter attacking like a Dortmund model or like the way Leicester and Crystal Palace at doing it ?
Team with width like the old Manchester United teams ?

I don't think we have any identity or principles by which we attack.


Defending wise - what are we ?
A year ago - we looked like a good systematic pressing team but I think the 2 quality center backs (VVD and Denayer) allowed us to do this.
So - are we a good high pressing team now ? - No and often get counter attacked on by lesser teams

Are we a team that sits in with discipline and can counter attack like the way Leicester currently do it or the way Italian teams have done for years ? No

Are we a team that can allow crosses because we are so solid with our penalty area defending ? No

Think about this current Celtic team ?

What is current attacking identity ?
What is current defending identity ?

We do not have either.

The players just seem to play. The only constant is the same shape/system - 4-2-3-1 but that does not mean a team has a way/style of playing.

We are non-descript right now. And not very good at being non descript.

 

Cant disregard them mate. Your suggesting they are smaller sides. 3 times in 2 seasons our manager failed to get past these smaller sides.

And thats not even looking at the Europa League results.

 

I didn't say he never made good signings...or was it the board...its tough keeping up.

I said he also made mistakes.

 

Personally, I would as well. But unless the people with the money are willing to pay a bit more than £200,000 - £300,000 per season for a manager then we really shouldn't be kidding ourselves that the Champions League is where we belong.

Sides who pay that kind of money aren't Champions League mainstays, they make it every now & then. Like we are at the moment.

Ah, the fabled and much-talked about "new man". Who the * is this "new man"? So far I've heard such names as Alan Stubbs and Steve Clark!

I really doubt that anyone would disagree with the idea of us bringing in a "new man" if he's going to be a step up from Deila and is someone of the ilk of a Moyes or Rodgers.

What are the chances of that though?

 

I already said;

 

I wouldn't bother, we haven't won in 11 Europa League games

Last game we won was against Astra at Celtic Park last season