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How will Griffiths be received tomorrow?

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Sean Daleer, Apr 18, 2014.

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  1. ILoveTheCeltic

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    I know what people mean too saying some things are much worse than others but that doesnt really have anything to do with people just using words to slag or offend.

    Like someone saying away back to your own country in an argument, that only them saying something to annoy the *. It's seen as bad cause of past discrimination against people like that but that was other peoples problems, Griffiths for example hasnt ever done anything(that we know) to discriminate against Refugees, he isnt leading a gang going about chasing foreign people out the country, if there are people doing that thats their problem and should have no impact on someone else.
     
  2. md1981

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    Bullshit!

    I was going to expand on this but i seriously don't see why I should. This casual attitude to racism is easy when you aren't the victim.
     
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  3. ILoveTheCeltic

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    Thats the same with all bullying though whatever its about someone being black, white, fat, skinny, a midget, ginger hair, smelly.

    Theres a differance between more aggressive bullying and * just slagging or offending people just for the sake of it to wind them up.
     
  4. ILoveTheCeltic

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    Depends what it is though, racism is a big spectrum of stuff. Theres a differance with telling someone to * off back to their own country, calling them a chinky or that or, battering people of different races or setting up hate groups to smash their windows and want them out your country.
     
  5. MacEwan MV3 Gold Member

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    I'm missing your point? So you are saying what Griffiths was involved in, being part of a large group aiming their hate at one person was worse than the normal name calling you here every day.

    I'm ginger, if someone calls me a ginger * I laugh it off. If it was a large group of people I'd probably feel like * and maybe want to retaliate in some way or take action. This is how things escalate. But racism is on a much larger scale.

    Being called ginger or fat is not the same as bringing race, religion or ethnic backgrounds into it. Not even on the same boat.
     
  6. md1981

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    So you're saying there is a variable range? Acceptable racism to offensive?
     
  7. ILoveTheCeltic

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    That's only opinion though, you are no more scottish than you are fat or no more white than you are ginger. So someone who doesnt care for skin colour or nationality would be more offended at being called a fat ginger than a white scottish *.

    No the range id say is from offensive to violence.

    Acceptable is variable in it's self. For me it's not acceptable to call someone a black * but it is to call them a fat ugly * but for someone else it might be acceptable and who am I to say im better because my standards of offending people are different to their standards.
     
  8. md1981

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    But thats not what you said. Your point was singing a song isn't REAL racism.


    To me racism is racism. Calling some one a black * isnt acceptable just because it has a melody.
     
  9. MacEwan MV3 Gold Member

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    Sorry, I'm really missing your point. Not even sure you know what your point is.
     
  10. ILoveTheCeltic

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    It isnt acceptable to me either BUT if people do find it acceptable then I can hardly talk as i've called people basically everything fat, smelly, ugly, useless, *, * and whatever amount of stuff so i'd look stupid saying someone who brought nationality or race into the spectrum or offending was worse than me and should be jailed.

    As when we say the stuff we don't know how offensive it is to the people it's being said too.

    So for me either all offending should be outlawed or none.

    The different tiers of offending weren't set up by me or you either. Me or you never had anything to do with races or countries or that being wiped out or used as slaves. I have never went to Africa and tried to take someone home as a slave, or gathered up Jews and tried to murder them, other people done that so saying stuff about that being out of bounds as opposed to saying stuff about gingers isnt any different to me as i've never actually harmed anyone.
     
  11. ILoveTheCeltic

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    For me any sort of offending should be the same as any other. Either all done away with or all allowed because who am I to judge wether something is more offensive to someone else than another thing.

    For all I know the worst thing to offend Ally McCoist could be to call him fat, won't stop me calling him Fat Sally. Same as to someone else it could be for you to offend their country or someone else you to offend their accent or their skin colour, or their weight or their height or their sexuality.

    Technically we dont know how someone else feels when we offend them.
     
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    Why are So many Celtic fans not supporters . We have fans on today saying Griffiths celebration of cupped ear was disrespectful . Really nonsense , that Celebration is done every weekend by some player . Other Celtic fans say they don't care if Griffiths is found innocent , they still know he did it . What the * is wrong with Celtic fans , we finally have a goal scorer and we know he is a racist even though the SFA and the courts in Scotland find him innocent . Wise up and grow up.
     
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    I never wanted him at first . Now am glad we have him . His celebration i dont think much of it to be honest he could have done alot worse if it was a dig at us
     
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    ITLC I think you really are downgrading racism. To say it's comparable to calling someone fat or useless is frankly moronic.

    I think you are a good poster but here you really are out you depth and I say that with respect.
     
  15. md1981

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    You really are a * of epic proportions.
     
  16. MacEwan MV3 Gold Member

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    Goals make racists ok?
     
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  18. MacEwan MV3 Gold Member

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    But being called fat isn't the same as being told to go back to your own country... Why can't you grasp that? Ally McCoist could have a wee cry then go on a diet a run a bit. You can't change your race, or where you are from and it also shouldn't be used against you.
     
  19. ILoveTheCeltic

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    It is though, for you to say calling someone a fat * is not as bad as calling them Catholic * is just your opinion on it. In reality it is as bad as each other. It only becomes worse when further action is taken - when offending goes to bullying then bullying to threatening then threatening to violence to murder/slavery/genocide.
     
  20. McChiellini..

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    Who does this cheeky little * think he is.
    Ill tell you exactly what he was doing earlier,taking the * out of and being disrespectful to the support in a * you kind of way.
    No * you son!