Leigh Griffiths

He should have. Although I doubt Griff would have laid it back either.

 

Can we stop the whole Griff vs Hooper debate now?

Griff is better off the ball, with the ball and scores more goals.

Hooper was becoming like mcdonald and getting too podgy, Griff has done the opposite so even his attitude is better.

Hooper was great but got carried away with his ego demanding to leave and *, let his body go etc..

If he isnt kicking himself right now then he is in denial.

To compare a prima donna like Hooper with a player who is loyal to the club and seeks to improve his game, body and attitude the way Leigh does is almost blasphemous.

Please...

 

I started off reading this paragraph and was thinking you were making a really good point. You lost me the longer it went on though. I think Griffiths would really toil playing for a team fighting relegation where supply and chances were scarce and he had to hold the ball up a lot. This is the very reason I have doubts about how he's going to fare in the group stage.

When we step up to that level we struggle to get possession of the ball so we need players in forward areas who have the ability to hold onto the ball and hold off physically imposing defenders. Hooper could do it, Scott McDonald could do it to a fashion and Samaras was really good at it. I don't think Samaras was good at much else but he was excellent at that, that's why he was an asset to us in European games. Holding the ball up is one of the glaring weaknesses in Griffiths game and that will be a big negative for us when we take on quality sides, especially away from home. It's not his fault, he's just a wee guy so it's not an ability he has in his locker.

 

Hooper finished Norwich's top goalscorer the season he played in the Premier League. He was also scoring goals for fun in the Championship with Scunthorpe, and basically keeping them in the league himself. Two teams who wouldn't have been creating chances with ease, and he was top goalscorer for both them. Hooper doesn't need a lot of chances to rack up goals, that was one of his best attributes. If a chance come his way, he usually took it.

 

Class act and getting better.

 

It obviously wasn't doing him any harm, because his goals increased each season he was with us. That's why I also don't understand the argument that Hooper become lazier the longer he was here.

 

Totally.

 

So when griff scored all those goals fro a hibs team that got relegated doesnt count then ?

Thats proof that he can play for a team with limited chances and still score what was it 20 odd goals for them?

People say more bullshit about griff than truth.- example oh he cant play upfront on his own- yeah he is terrible

he cant score in europe- yeah he is * at that too.

just exactly what does griff have to do to prove to the doubters that yes he is actually the real deal.

I honestly think he could score 60 goals in a season and people would still moan about something..i.e.. aye well he should have scored 70 golas the chances he gets.

 

Sorry my mistake i meant during his time here

 

Totally different level of football. Griffiths is an outstanding player in Scottish Football, nobody is saying otherwise.

 

Hoops was improving his tally by a couple of goals a season, but he was increasing his waistband too, he had a belly issue like mcdonald.

I loved hooper but he thought he could do better than us and he was very wrong about that. He has played in zero european ties since leaving ,he was so ambitious
that he left a club competing in europe every season to play relegation football in england. His bank balanc emight be richer for it but his football life is magnitudes of poorer.

To compare that to Griff is just insulting

 

Ah right. No worries

 

someone said he was merely a "good" spl player- thats either trolling or insanity

 

Nobody is doubting hoopers ability to score goals even the 13 in 30 quoted is a decent return.

I just dont hink we should be comparing him to griff who has surpassed hoopers goals record for us

 

I'm pretty sure Hooper turned down more money at QPR in order to join Norwich, because they were in the EPL, and he felt he could get an England call up by playing in the EPL. I can't really have a dig at him for that.

He didn't have belly issues at all. He was always stocky. The revisionism on here in regards to Hooper is ridiculous in my opinion.

 

Hooper left us because he thought it was the only chance he had of getting England caps. He could have scored 60 goals a season up here and it still wouldn't have been recognised down south. So he had to go down there and see what he could do. I was gutted when he left but I can't blame him for going and neither should anybody else.

 

Yeha it seems a bit strange that Larsson feats of scoring in scotland are not tarred by the brush of those using it on Leigh

 

Well you might want to read the guy's post who I replied to. He said Hooper would get goals in the EPL if he played with a team that created chances, but would struggle in a team fighting relegation. That's why I pointed out that he was top goalscorer for two teams in Norwich and Scunthorpe, who were very much relegation candidates in both the EPL and Championship respectively.

 

Its not revisionism when they are the views I held when he was actually here, like whether he contributed enough as a lone striker to be choosen over stokes in european games.

Its a continuation of debate not revision