Dangerous Dog breeds - your thoughts...

Thought I'd start a thread on this in response to the poor girl who was mauled to death this week by a pack of dogs.

We hear the term "Dangerous Dogs" in relation to certain breeds all the time. This invariably leads to the argument between those who see breeds such at pit-bulls as being inherently dangerous, and those who believe it's all down to ownership.

Now, obviously, any dog that goes berzerk is dangerous, but you do not hear of these stories with regards to Labradors, or Collies (a breed which is prone to 'nipping'). People might then point to the sheer 'strength' of certain breeds but why then are Boxers and Great Danes never associated with violent attacks on humans?

This then focuses the public's attention on certain breeds. For example:

Pit-bull terriers
Rottweilers
Akitas
Doberman Pinchers
Pressa Canarios
Bull Mastiffs

and so on...


So what do people think? Do you think that ownership of certain breeds carries certain inherent dangers? Do you believe in banning certain breeds? Do you believe that ownership of certain breeds should be very carefully vetted? And whatever else...

P.S. I am a dog owner, myself.

 

Moved to pub

 

Celtic Chat ya * :smiley-laughing002:

 

I've got a wee Staffie and she's a cracking wee dug,it's not the dog a lot of the time it's the way the owners rear the dogs

 

Haha, I didn't realise what I did there! Apologies!

 

Dogs are animals and at times they will do what they want no matter what the same as all other animals, humans, horses, apes, elephants, dolphins, monkeys, lions doesnt matter what animal at times they will do stuff thats not seen as what they normally do either calmer than youd expect or more aggressive.

 

So if you're on the 'nature' side of the fence, as opposed to 'nurture', then presumably you DO believe that certain breeds come with certain dangers?

I'm not showing my hand in any way here btw, I wanna canvas opinion first!:icon_mrgreen:

 

Its the owners fault not the dogs....if the dogs aren't trained they will run riot,even dogs like bull mastifs are nice...but they are brought up in a dangerous environment they will turn easily....its all down to the owners and the respect they learn from each other....

My dogs here....are stunning and the most friendly I have seen....great with kids etc...becoz I brought them up well..

 

I just bought an Akita and the size it's growing at is crazy!

Not sure if I'd be able to control it when it's fully grown

 

So would you say that certain breeds get a lot of stick because they are desired by the wrong types who train them badly? Prestige-dogs owned by idiots in other words?

Again, i'm not shoing my hand.

 

I agree with ILTC.

As regard to the OP, I've heard of people being attacked by many breeds of dog. It just gets far more publicity when it's a rottweiler, doberman, akita, staffy etc.

Something has to be done in this country, there are far too many dogs, far too many irresponsible owners, too many folk breeding for the sake of a few quid. A guy on This Morning yesterday suggested all dog owners must have a license, paying around £20 a year, something like that might help. Also mandatory micro chipping, which I think is to be implemented by 2016 will hopefully help as well.

 

There are no bad dogs, only bad owners.

 

You can nurture an animal all you want but it will have its own personality and do what it wants whenever it wants to. Ive seen hundreds probably thousands of times dogs going nuts at each other in the street and only being held back from attacking each other by their owners. The owners just brush it off go home and everything is fine never really thinking that if they werent on leashes, their innocent wee dogs would have attacked each other.

Any dog could do anything at any time.

 

took the words right out of my mouth.

 

I thought we had got to the bottom of that mystery player who is going to retire without ever having a shot. We have been playing Breenzo's dog right midfield.

Am I right in saying there is not going to be any charges in relation to the girl in Wigan's death ?

To be honest I am no dog lover but I can see why some people are.

I am no expert and assume some breeds are more likely to be dangerous but for me I think the onus has to be firmly on the owners. I wouldn't agree with people being vetted more before owning dogs as that could lead to a situation where bureaucrats are deciding who or "what sort of people" can keep dogs. I would be sceptical as to whether this would be fair.

However if owners don't take the proper precautions with their dogs they should be punished and banned from having any pets. I know these rules already exist I am just not sure how effectively they are used.

There is a couple near me that have a Rottweiler and I often see them walking the dog and it never has a lead on. However it seems exceptionally well behaved.

 

Yes the problem is as said the owners...once dogs get by the cute puppy stage...training is about to begin,when a dog gets stronger it will test you as well...you must never Hit a dog,this will bare its teeth and react like this on the outside....against children....if a dog does something wrong...IGNORE the dog,clean it up etc don't look at it...never go mental and hit it...its the worst thing to do for the dog in the future....

I have 2 Alaskan malamutes (as pictured) they were a nightmare training both of them...very difficult...but I managed to do it...the problem with the community is that people see the wolf in my dogs and think "animanls/monsters" which is a shame as they are so friendly its unreal..

HOWEVER...I would never leave my dogs alone with any youngsters (especially when food is about,no matter how good your dogs are trained)

 

I agree. But to play Devil's Advocate - the 'dangers' we are talking about might be down to the dog's animalistic nature but are, nonetheless, dangerous to people. So why one powerful dog such as a Rott, and not another such as a Boxer?

 

I think it's majorly how a dog is brought up, Dogs are animals, sometimes you cannot control what they do, between them my mum and dad, they have had around 10 dogs between them, they always get them as pups, only one dog ever, had bitten someone, or acted aggressively towards someone, and that dog was brought up the exact same way as all the other pet dogs we have had. He bit a boy from next door because as he(the dog) was growing up, we had neighbours who had two sons who would throw stones at him, so when the dog grew big enough, thinking the boy was the same as the ones that threw stones at him because they looked very similar, he bit him. We had to get him put down. We couldn't control that he acted out due to him being abused by the neighbours sons, at times they are going to act on instinct, and that is the only dog we have ever had that has hurt anyone. I play fight with my mums current dog, it never gets out of hand. You can definitely bring them up to be loving, friendly pets, but there are 1 in 100 times that the dog will act on instinct.


So basically, I personally think the whole dangerous breeds is a load of bullshit, I have had around 5/6 dogs though out my life, only one has ever hurt anyone, and that was because the dog thought it was a person that had hurt it. If people bring them up to be friendly dogs, they will 99% of the time, be friendly dogs.

 

http://www.spaldingtoday.co.uk/news/latest-news/toddler-victim-of-boxer-dog-attack-1-568008

Attack by Boxer

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-injuries-Labrador-savages-Poole-Harbour.html

Attack by Labrador

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...titches-attack-grandparents-timid-collie.html

Attack by Collie


As usual the only time you hear about it is when it's breed people deem dangerous.

 

My dogs have faught with each other...and it is very frightening to this day...picture 2 bears with wolf teeth clamped on each other....safety is my main concern at this point.....the reason they have faught together is over...a toy,a piece of food they have found,the * in heat...and dominance of the house..

A massive tip I have to give people on here incase they have children and larger dogs ....ALWAYS have the child on the couch or above the dogs height...never let the dog on the couch while children are in house (toddlers)....and make sure the toddler gives the dogs its food and attempts to hold the lead when out a walk.....THE DOG MUST KNOW THE TODDLER IS IN CONTROL