Lennon: is he losing dressing room?

I saw this on another thread.

Strange tactical decisions may be costing him and his team (3 at the back v in-form County) etc - not the time or place to take gambles. We've never looked comfortable trying that - so: a crazy decision. The teams he's choosing are not performing well when tested in bread and butter SPL. Lenny slates the players in the press after almost every game we lose down to his tactical play, use of subs etc: this is not productive in any way. Do you guys think he could be losing the dressing room? Saying he needs 'men' after that last game - and he did say that, I heard him say it on an interview - ain't exactly gonna create stability in a dressing room is it?!

Thoughts?

 

The short answer is; no he's not.

/endthread.

 

No chance

 

Aye mate

 

He isn't losing the dressing room, but he is constantly 'disappointed' in his players performances, well what the * is he doing to correct it. Seems to be saying the same thing every second week and we keep seeing dire performances both by the players and the management with their incessant need to tinker/change.

 

He played 3 at the back because all 3 of our full backs were injured.

There's your answer.

 

No he is not losing the dressing room. I actually think the players should be grateful to Neil Lennon, there has been several occasions this season where he'd have been well within his rights to come out and slaughter the players in the media but he instead chose to praise them.

If there are players in that dressing room who can't handle being criticised when they fall below the expected standard then they shouldn't be at a club like Celtic.

 

No, I don't think he is 'losing' the dressing room. That said he has a young squad, a number of which are being regularly linked with moves elsewhere that he is trying to keep focused.

Like E'bunny mentioned, he should be taking a bit more ownership when his decisions backfire, but he does acknowledge when he makes mistakes also - just that they are not always played up in the media in the same manner, as 'Lenny badmouths players' gets trotted out. That said, about the only manager I can think of (off the top of my head) to publically admonish his players when they were clearly at fault was Arsene Wenger - though I'm sure those players were done so privately.

In Lenny, we trust.

 

I think he slates them too often and too harshly to be able to command a harmonious tight knit dressing room,
personally. Don't think any opinion contrary to that so far has been strong enough. I wish he'd put his hand up and say 'I * it up' a bit more, rather than lambasting players.

That said assuming the full-back crisis was indeed true (none available), that does make it tougher - but drafting in a youngster rather than going for three at the back with new 'bombscare' Efe back there would have been wiser. We're pish at three at the back - and that last game was perfect evidence for that.

 

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I suspect it's behind him

 

My thoughts are that if I were a Celtic player I'd be annoyed at Lennon's constant chopping and changing of the team and the tactics. Part of the problem (if you can call it that) is that we've got a lot of strength in depth and it's hard to keep everyone happy when you've got a squad as good as ours. Martin O'Neill's teams basically picked themselves as did Gordon Strachan's which meant we had a fairly settled starting 11 and a formation and tactics to suit which in my opinion makes a better team.

Is he losing the dressing room? I really don't know to be honest, all I can say is that if I was one of the better players at the club then I'd be fairly annoyed that the strongest team isn't picked every single week.

 

He didn't lose the dressing room when we were 15 points behind last season.

Yet he'll lose it from being 15 points clear? This place is mental at times :smiley-laughing002:

 

In terms of complacency i can see an argument, motivation won't be a problem for neil, but it clearly is for the players, lenny's motivation and desire to win is getting lost somewhere.

 

yeah i agree, time for a clear out

 

effe played right back for nigeria and mulgrew and izzaguire are left backs so that kinda kills the notion we didn't have a right back for ross county

* awful decision to play that formation against ross county

and therefore the manager is more to blame for that defeat than the players

 

The players are not performing in the league because it was won months ago.

Whether you think its right or wrong (I personally think its wrong, for reasons that I've explained in other threads), they can afford to play poorly and drop points, because no other club is going to be able to compete with us in the SPL for the next 4-5 seasons, if not more.

The thing that disappoints me the most is not the performances or even the final results, but the way the fans who pay their hard earned cash are being treated by the squad. Not many people have money to spare now and those who are spending their wages on following Celtic are being ripped off right now, to put it bluntly.

 

I do not go as far as that - however I really believe its a management disaster that we cannot win the treble, its a farce if we cant. Compared to the competition its embarrassing that we cannot achieve it - its a fact

 

Experimenting with tactics, formations and player selection isnt strange. Its being done because it can be done as theres no consequence to doing it. We've been testing out formations and tactics for about 1 whole year now playing 3-5-2, 3-4-3, 4-3-3, 4-5-1, 3-4-1-2, 4-3-1-2, 4-3-2-1 etc

For a while even when you see what 11 was picked to start a game you never had a clue what formation we were going to be playing in as we could have moved players into about 5 different styles.