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Thinking of buying a used car

Discussion in 'TalkCeltic Pub' started by marco1888, Feb 10, 2013.

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  1. KingArtur'1

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    i was supposed to buy a sensible car for the kids but you can imagine the mrs delight when i came home with a stage 3 courtenay remapped astra vxr sitting at 400bhp and getting around 18m to the gallon :56:
     
  2. Onefootwonder

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    If should be checked at the MOT test. It's currently a visual check that also tells the tester not to move any guards. So if it's covered, they aren't supposed to go digging. The tester should still be able to tell by the smoke test.

    They do think it will become a proper inspection in the not too distant future. It should be too.

    What's the point of having the MOT test if an inspector is just going to ignore the rules he's supposed to abide to? They will lose their certificate if knowingly passing cars that should be a fail.

    £1k from a BMW dealer? I think not. Depending what model of 330d you have, it'll be a minimum of £1600 at a dealer to over £2000. Even on Fords, Vauxhall and so on you're looking at £1000 before you start adding premium BMW prices on.

    You can use various methods of doing in on the cheap. Quite a few of them fail to work properly. Most people will end up back at a recognised garage and pay the money mentioned.

    The reason so many people pay for a DPF removal and remap is due to the cost of a replacement. Some are going for the extra power, but many are due to the cost. What did Stan charge you for a DPF pipe and remap?

    I'm really not sure why I'm contesting this futile arguement.

    Anyway, the bottom line is diesels are stinking horrible things that should have a DPF on them. You think it doesn't matter and nobody will bother. There is no real point in trying to convince you otherwise when you can't contest an argument without being wrong and adding smiley faces.

    If you want to find out information, try a car site such as Pistonheads I'd imagine a good start. There's also plenty of BMW specific forums where you'll see the topic of DPF failure or removal coming up time and time again.
     
  3. Onefootwonder

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    400bhp from just a remap on an Astra H VXR?

    Courtney stage 4, that costs £5000, manages 320 bhp.
     
  4. TimFloyd Gold Member

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    I'm using smileys because you're having some strange * fit over this issue! :smiley-laughing002: I'm not contesting anything I am merely stating facts by saying I have a diesel with the DPF removed and it passed a MOT which it did.

    I have a piece of paper to prove it! :bbpd:

    I am firmly aware of the new legislation but you are trying to make it sound as though my car is killing babies as it drives round the town.

    Again, you have said you have lost count of how many people have been pulled up and I have continued to ask you for links so I can have a read???


    If I want to find out information???? :56: do you not think I researched this subject when my own dpf was playing up? I am member of pistonheads and various BMW forums.

    Thanks again for the education on various subjects like diesel (I work in the fuel industry) but thanks again.
     
  5. TimFloyd Gold Member

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    and FYI a dpf is £1200 from the dealer. :icon_mrgreen:
     
  6. Onefootwonder

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    Yes they do cost £1200. Not many people are going to fit them themselves though. So add BMW labour rates to the purchase price.

    Use Google and you'll more than likely find the costs coming up over and over.

    I'm not having a strange * fit, I put my point forward and you're spouting nonsense and adding in smiley faces as if I'm wrong. I'm not losing any sleep over it.

    The law if clear on the matter and it's dubious if the car will pass an MOT or not. Some people are going to get a shock when their car is pulled up for no DPF. Which it really should.

    If people were really aware of how dirty and dangerous diesel is, I'm sure they think would twice about doing it through choice.

    Back in the early 90s it was the same nonsense when they made a catalytic convertor compulsory. People always take offence at new rules and keep thinking they shouldn't apply to them. Not many people take their CATs off these days.
     
  7. TimFloyd Gold Member

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    Who said anything about going to BMW to fit it?

    "use google" seems to be your favourite saying seeing as you have the sheer inability to post links! :smiley-laughing002:

    I am not trying to prove anything right or wrong, you are saying stuff and all I am doing is asking you to provide a link to it?

    Kinda how things work on internet forums. :smiley-laughing002:
     
  8. TimFloyd Gold Member

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    :rolleyes:
     
  9. Onefootwonder

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    I'm being trolled here, surely?

    I've been in some really stupid internet arguments in my time. This is right up there with the worst.

    You are making this very stupid just to win. I'll let you win.

    Even if you don't get BMW to fit it, you still have to get someone to fit it. Most people don't have any knowledge about cars at all. Once your car is in limp mode most people need it fixed ASAP and can't always wait for a garage who can source a DPF quickly and fit it.

    You're not going to save a great deal on money in the grand scale of things. Any half decent garage still charges a minimum of 2/3 if not 3/4 of BMW rates.

    If you were on Pistonheads and BMW forums, you wouldn't require me to search through threads on your behalf.

    Feel free to ask the question on one of the forums and you'll soon see people pop up.
     
  10. TimFloyd Gold Member

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    All I asked was for links to all these people that have failed a MOT for not having a dpf, that is all.

    Yes across car forums the dpf topic has been done to death and there is thousands of talking points on the matter.

    However out of all the posts, there are virtually zero threads (that I can find anyway) of people actually stating their car has failed a MOT and the reason is because the dpf has been removed.

    As before like I have said many times can you please post links as you have repeatedly stated there's loads.

    And yet you say I'm trolling??

    Hilarious.
     
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  11. PaulM1888 Administrator Administrator

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    If you own a diesel and do lots of short journeys a DPF removal is a wise move.

    If you can't get it through an MOT without one you haven't tried hard enough.
     
  12. doctor venglos

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    An Audi 3 is a good reliable car. I have one just now and it is going like bird with no problems with it.
    The boot space is great and I can fit fair sized pieces of furniture in the back :smiley-laughing002:
    All the German made cars are solid and reliable. Audi,BMW and Volkswagen.
     
  13. Cena Never Give Up Gold Member

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    My car has 4 wheels but i have no license so i can't drive it :56:
     
  14. Onefootwonder

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    If you do lots of short journeys, just buy a petrol. It's the easiest solution.

    I've never said you can't get a car through an MOT. I know fine well they do pass. Many DPFs are covered by guards and MOT testers are not allowed to remove covers.

    If the DPF is removed it should be an automatic failure if the person was doing the MOT correctly.

    The question is, why expect a tester to turn a blind eye to the lack of DPF, but everyone expect they'd pull a car up for other health and safety reasons.

    Nearly all German brands always score low in reliability tests. Their reputation is far greater than reality.

    You can pick some models that are just plain dreadful for reliability.

    Honda embarrass the Germans something awful for reliability.
     
  15. Pinstripe

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    Always remember to kick the tyres, lets the seller know you know what yir doing.
     
  16. PaulM1888 Administrator Administrator

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    Or buy a diesel and remove the DPF.

    It has zero impact on how safe a car is to drive.
     
  17. celts67

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    Just picked up a Nissan Tida 2009 for 2200 with full service history and under 46 000 miles . Needed something reliable for the price that was the best I could do , paid cash . * so decent .
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks7bSAbZzZE[/ame]
     
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  18. CH4 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Just looked at a 4 series bmw idrive

    Beautiful motor very tempted
     
  19. Onefootwonder

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    I did say health and safety.

    The reek is very bad for your health. Or should I say the others that have to breathe in the fumes.

    You do realise just how dangerous diesel fumes are?

    Some cities are already imposing, or looking to impose, complete bans of diesel cars from city centres. Some already tax diesel car higher to pressurise them out of the city.

    They've done what they can over the years to try to clean up diesel cars, but there is only so much they can do. All the manufacturers are struggling to meet the next level of emissions required.

    Then you've got people who just don't care and see no issue with removing their DPFs. Then because a replacement DPF is too expensive, more are removing them as it's the cheap option.


    The problem is getting right out of hand and everyone knows it. That's why it was introduced in the MOT.

    It appears the MOT doesn't matter either. There is so many people who think rules and laws don't apply to them and they know so much better.

    It's actually clear they usually know nothing.
     
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  20. Senna s1979

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    Away back to Pistonheads. You sound like one of them pretentious *.