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Lucas Leiva

Discussion in 'World Football' started by CelticMorocco, Nov 27, 2011.

Discuss Lucas Leiva in the World Football area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. CelticMorocco

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    I think he has improved a lot over last season and this season has probably been Liverpool's best player. He used to look very bad, gave the ball to the other team too many times and did not tackle as much. I just saw him against Manchester City where he was the best player by far, made so many tackles and good passes. Best defensive midfielder in the premiership?
     
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  2. kristof

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    improved a * of alot in the last year
     
  3. Scarecrow

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    He's been what Mulgrew has been to us.
     
  4. ILoveTheCeltic

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    Hes been great for a while now, used to think he was * too :52:

    I think he cost about 1/3 of what Ramires and Anderson cost Chelsea and Man U as well and they're two dumpliings.
     
  5. Scarecrow

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    I quite like Ramires tbh.
     
  6. ILoveTheCeltic

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    Hes a likable enough hard working player but for £20million youd think the player would have atleast basic technical ability like a Darren Fletcher or Gareth Barry.

    They coulda had Scott Brown off us for half that price easy.
     
  7. ConorCFC123

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    Ramires' ball control and dribbling is class. He's not the best passer, but of course he has technical ability. Moreover, his off the ball movement and physical attributes * all over Fletcher and Barry.

    Scott Brown :56:, surely you're not putting him on a par with Ramires.
     
  8. ILoveTheCeltic

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    He might have more pace than Fletcher or Barry but they have more skill in their weaker foots tbh

    I compare him to Scott Brown as he's very similar, great pace and work rate but lacks composure and is let down by the technical side of the game. Not suited to playing in the middle of the park and works best on the right of midfield. I would say they're really close in terms of ability too. They are about £6million players not near Chelsea class more Newcastle, Everton.

    I also disagree that his ball control and dribbling is class, if its class what is someone like Forrests never mind McGeady or McCourt.

    If Ramires played for us he wouldnt even be one of our best players.
     
  9. BelfastCelt88

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    He's improved but he's not the best defensive midfielder in the PL. Essien is better than him when he's fit, Nigel De Jong is better than Lucas.
     
  10. Liam Scales

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    Most underated player in the world for me.
     
  11. Jamesy Bhoy 7

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    De jong isnt as good imo and essien about 3 years ago was the best DMF in the world but that was ages ago, hes never hit them heights since due to injury / Age.
     
  12. ConorCFC123

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    Brown is a poor man's Ramires. Ramires is more intelligent and better defensively. Even his pace, stamina and workrate are a fair bit better than Brown's, although those are Brown's main attributes.

    For a centre-mid his dribbling ability is very good. He's very good on the ball and at carrying the ball forward.
     
  13. Twisty . Gold Member

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    Was this guy no just made a scapegoat for Liverpool being poor ? never thought he was that bad. For all I watch English football though.
     
  14. ILoveTheCeltic

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    I disagree I think he's out his depth at Chelsea. I also think Chelsea regret buying him and if they could go back they wouldnt sign him, dont think he should get a game for Brazil either. Just dont rate him, even from the first time I seen him I think he scored the first time I seen him playing for Brazil but he stuck out like a sore thumb as he couldnt control the ball and his passing was all over the shop.

    He would be a good player at our level like Brown or a mid or bottom half Premiershup side but hes not Chelsea and Brazil quality, more like Norway and Bolton quality.
     
  15. Highland_Bhoy Gold Member Gold Member

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    Fantastic player and hope he keeps it up. Just shows he is doing well when he is getting a started place in the Brazil team.
     
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    Massive myth he just didn't standout when Alonso,Masch and Gerrard were in the team. He has being outstanding for two years and for me every big game we have played over the last 2 years he has being out best player.
     
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    Most improved player in the EPL over the last two seasons. I'll be the first to admit I slated the guy but he's stuck in and become one of the first names on the teamsheet.

    Knowing Liverpool they'll probably sell him to a rival in the summer.

    I still can't believe that they sold Meireles, their best player last season, and signed Jordan Henderson, Charlie Adam etc. In saying that they should have given Aquilani more of a chance to adapt, he would have been brilliant for them. This would have been a brilliant, dynamic front six:

    Lucas Aquilani
    Downing Meireles Bellamy
    Suarez
     
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    Its good for the Brasilian national team how well he's playing, they need a solid Defensive Mid in their team.
     
  19. ourdaywillcome! Gold Member Gold Member

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    Some improvement from the lad. A few years back I dreaded watching him play, thought he was absolute garbage.

    Fair play to him though really upped his game, deserves the praise he is now getting.
     
  20. Seosamh Máirtín

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    He's part of the reason I will no longer watch a Liverpool game. Pish football philosophy, since coming to the British game. I'm surprised they didn't sell him in the summer. Their positional signings summed him up...would be surprised if he's improved much.