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A cult of Neil Lennon developing?

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Lee Mc, Aug 21, 2011.

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  1. CavaBhoy

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    lol ad give um until may then if he hasnt won the league regardless of what a legend he is rangers contemplating 5 in a row is a horror movie !
     
  2. Anthony1993

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    There is a definet supporting cult for Neil Lennon, has been since he started as manager.

    An Ex-player who has faced biogitory and has rose above it is always going to gain a special type of support.

    Much like there is a cult support for Pat McCourt, he's a good player, but when there was rumours of him going to liverpool, people didnt want him to go.

    This might become the case for neil lennon, but i belive at the end of the season, if lennon isnt succesful, he'll step down knowing he isnt good enough because he loves the club to much and knows if he isnt the best thing for the club then he will do what has to be done.

    A cult has developed and will cause many to be ignorant to mistake, but if unsuccesful lennon will do the right thing.
     
  3. gunt

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    The one thing that is almost totally 100% to do with cult of Lenny and his background is the way a large majority of our fans wanted him before he had got the job. Anyone else with a comparable amount of experience would have been laughed out of town.
     
  4. doctor venglos

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    I think you are right Gunt. Just because a player comes from a Celtic or Catholic background should not make him a nail on for the job at Parkhead, if his CV is lacking in ability, talent and experience. We have had arguably our best results from managers not from that particular background, if you consider the likes of Strachan, Jansen, and even Jock Stein, though he once played for Celtic, he also came from a Lanarkshire Protestant background, so I think we have got to get away from this Roman elitism and parochial background, and select future managers on their skills, talents and experience as a manager.Look at Burns, Mowbray, Brady and Macari, none of these cult Celtic managers ever cut the mustard either, and Lennon has it all to do, if he dozen't want to join that list in the future.
     
  5. gunt

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    I think this has been used an a plank to beat Levein with. However, I think he is a good manager and very experienced. Again, he may not have been perfect but he was still light years ahead of Lenny in terms of CV. No contest at all if you are being rational about it.
     
  6. gunt

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    I have often thought that it is a disadvantage to be steeped in Celtic tradition because they get too emotionally involved and feel they have to play a certain type of football. I thought Lenny had turned the tide about January-March last year but as soon as Rangers got players back this impression melted away. I am not convinced he is experienced enough tactically for this job. Its another aspect of the Lenny cult that a lot of fans say 'oh but he is still learning his trade'. I just cannot imagine that sort of leeway being granted to anyone else.
     
  7. doctor venglos

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    Mowbray got his * felt in less than a year for under performing, and Strachan got hunted out the door for not getting 4IAR for *'s sake :54:

    Here is the breakdown with Lenny in case anyone has forgotten.

    1.We lost to Ross County in the Scottish Cup
    2.We got our * felt by Braga and Utrecht in the Europa
    3.We lost the league, and though Mowbray lost the previous league primarily. Lenny still carried the can at the end.
    4.We lost the CS Cup.

    Offset by
    1.We won the Scottish Cup

    So if we get punted out of the Europa by Sion, conjecture I know, but if it happens, I see plenty on here saying, well that's alright then, it is the league we want now. So what is it going to be ? Are they prepared to give Lenny to the 12th of Never ?
     
  8. Artur Boruc #1

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    Is that a euphemism, aye ?

    Lennon's performance as manager last season merited another crack at it, that's ultimately the bottom line.
     
  9. doctor venglos

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    So Jack if we get horsed by Sion on Thursday, at the first point of asking again in the Europa, does that not put a dent in the model ? And we already have fallen behind Rangers early days, we gave McCoist a get out of jail card on Sunday .
     
  10. Artur Boruc #1

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    Of course it puts a dent in it, a massive dent, I have never said otherwise.
     
  11. selbybhoy

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    I really don't care who the manager is and don't have any love for any of them as long as they do what they are paid to do is all I want and they will get my backing but a loss in the spl and a * result against a sion and a possible exit from Europe meaning not getting into the Europa cup proper just ain't good enough.
    And all this in Lenny we have faith etc is balls
     
  12. Anthony1993

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    I agree, "in the lennon we trust"
    No matter who the manager is we should trust them, untill the prove otherwise.

    Lennon has become a cult manager, even a picture of him is at the top of the page, who might see some of his flaws overlooked, due to his history with the club and this cult support thats developed.

    But we cant forget the fact that lennon has done well for the club also, bringing back alot of what celtic is about. A club supported by very good fans and has shown we are a club not to be seen as bigots.

    You can be the best person in the world, the best role model. But counts for nothing if the results arent there.
    Thats why we need a result against Sion, a very important year for us, yes IMO the league comes first, but europe is also high on the priority list.
     
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    i think it's mental that after one bad result a myriad of threads slating lennon suddenly appear.....:rolleyes:

    by all means question the manager when he gets it wrong, he knows as well as us that yesterday was far from good enough, he knows what it takes, but we wont make progress if folk start jumping on his back after every bad result

    we slag the huns for their childish impatience but it has been in abundant display on here the last day or two, this a week after many on here were proclaiming us champions elect after thumping dundee

    a lot of people need to remember where lennon has brought us from; in many ways he's still suffering from having to clean up mowbray's mess when you still have guys who'll never play like hoovield and rasmussen hanging around taking wages that could be going towards improving the team; the manager has been badly let down so far by the board this transfer window as is becoming much more evident
     
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    I cannot believe that you seriously think what you have just posted sums up Lenny's time in charge of our club.

    Do the man justice for *'s sake, it had been such a long time since there was a genuine feeling of positivity and unification around the club, and i for one feel that last season, Neil Lennon brought it back.
     
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    Good feeling comes
    With good results let's see how the feeling is after sion game
     
  16. boylebhoy95

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    You are right, it is absolutely mental! :50:
     
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    Get off his back for * sake.

    We were the ones that agreed his appointment, to stand by him and give him a chance.

    2 bad games and we have the P45 brigade out in force.

    Fact is, Lenny is inexperienced and will make futile errors in his learning process.
    Fact is, We knew this when we cried for him to get the job.
    Fact is, if it goes pear shaped then we are as much to blame as he is.

    What happened to "We are all Neil Lennon". Have the moaners and hypocrites changed their names already.

    * me, the deed poll office must have been rushed off their feet today.

    Get a grip folks. I am still Neil Lennon and I am not being fickle, just showing a bit of loyalty when the chips are down.

    Faithful through and through :shamrock:
     
  18. trip2themoon Concomitant Allez-Vous?

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    A rookie should never have been put in charge of a massive club such as Celtic. I didn't want him to be manager and there's still nothing to change how I feel. I'm sick of seeing "he'll learn from his mistakes" how many mistakes is he going to learn from.

    Someone mentioned earlier we were missing 3 key players. What we had in our starting 11 should have been enough to see off St Johnstone at home. It was only a few short years ago we were holding our own and winning against several Euro superclubs now we struggle against the mighty Sion, a team I'd never heard of until Celtic drew them in the UEFA. I'll still back my team but Neil was without doubt the wrong choice as manager and does everyone forget how we struggled against Aberdeen a few weeks ago...:54:
     
  19. Liam Scales

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    I'll sum this up in one question:

    Are we in a better position under Neil Lennon than we were before he took over?
     
  20. gunt

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    The bit in bold just about sums up the irrational aspect of the cult. Why if you are being rational would cry to get someone appointed who you know is very inexperienced and will have to learn from mistakes on Celtic first team time? Sorry, I hope he turns it round but it still makes no sense to appoint someone because he is a MR Celtic guys who ticks the right background tickboxes. However it works out, there is simply no way he should have been in the running for the job. What qualified him to even be considered? Rangers too with McCoist. I suspect in both cases it was a cheap option and they took advantage of fans soft spot for club legends who are seen as embodying the club in some way.