Sion Thrown Out Of Europe?

Clubs that are not expecting to be in Europe the following year, could just cheat their way through the year they are currently competing in. That's the message they would be sending out.

I can't see that happening, I wouldn't put it past them though.

 

I'm sick and tried of all this crap,Sion Knew end off!!

FFS Sion still cheated and everything could change on websites!!!
I heard a verdict will be read out next week DEFO,well before the group stages,Anyway FC SION CHEATED ffs why would all this crap come out about them,Just hurry up and do the right thing uefa,FIFA or who * decides this whole ffing mess!!

off-course sion fans will want there club in the group stage cause they've never been there so Sion would do ANYTHING just to make the group stage,i thought sion were warned well before they played us twice so one outcome for me bhoys and ghirls...


SION OUT CELTIC IN!!

 

UEFA should have decided BEFORE the 2nd game and let everybody know.

They surely hoped we would beat them so they could have given a bog standard explanation.

Unfortunately we didn't and everything turned into a massive mess.

The longer it takes them to decide the nastier this whole situation is turning out.

 

Exactly mate what a mess

SION OUT CELTIC IN!!

 

@Giminez

Sion were found guilty of inducing El-Hadary to break his contract using Article 17 of the FIFA transfer laws. Now to be found guilty of that there has to be evidence of El-Hadary actually breaking his contract, that's not a something that can be made up, all this has to go through various channels involving a lot of paperwork and if the CAS didn't see enough evidence of this they would have ruled against FIFA and upheld Sion's appeal, the CAS are totally independent of FIFA and have ruled against them on numerous occasions. I'm afraid you've been reading too much into what the Swiss media and the Sion chairman wants you to believe.

FIFA have stated that local courts have no bearing on any punishment handed out to it's member clubs or football organisations. FIFA can ignore it because it's an internal disciplinary matter and not a matter for some mickey mouse court to decide on. A two transfer window ban was handed to Sion any player they signed within that embargo is most definitely ineligible, if they don't adhere to the rules imposed on them FIFA are well within their rights to take further action.

It's irrelevant how Sion played which is a shame because they played well albeit against 10 men for the vast majority of the game and the only embarrassment around is Sion's or more specifically their chairman's pathetic attempts to weasel his way out of this entire situation and drag the game into disrepute instead of just adhering to the laws of the game, and getting on with it without further incident and accepting the santions imposed.

 

No Sion ruling until end of ... September


Uefa president Michel Platini
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31 Aug 2011
Celtic’s hopes of being reinstated in the Europa League are hanging in the balance after it emerged today there will be no binding ruling on the Sion situation until the end of next month.

Neil Lennon’s side were knocked out at the qualifying stage last week after losing 3-1 to Sion, but Parkhead chiefs have appealed to Uefa after the Swiss side fielded players subject to a transfer ban.

The Parkhead club could yet be reinstated in the competition, however, with Uefa threatening to throw Sion out of the Europa League if they are found guilty of breaking the rules.

The Court of Arbritation for Sport (CAS) is the ruling body in any such dispute and secretary general Mattieu Reeb admits there is unlikely to be a conclusion to the saga before the end of next month – two weeks after the group stage matches begin.

He said: “There is a case pending arbitration here – but there is no hope of a final decision before the end of September.

“There could still be something decided by Uefa this week. I understand they are planning to issue a decision.

“But the case could still come to us for arbitration later.

“There is an appeals process with Uefa first, then either Sion or Celtic could appeal to CAS and plead their case with us.

“I don’t see how it can be done by September 15, which of course is the date for the first round of Europa League games.

“We just have to wait for Uefa’s decision.

“After that, we could see more appeals by Sion or Celtic.”

If the case is still rumbling on by the time Sion’s group, which includes Athletico Madrid, Udinese and Rennes, kicks off, it could leave the competition descending into chaos.

Sion are due to face Madrid a fortnight tomorrow in Spain and to host Udinese on September 29 but, if Celtic are successful in their appeal and the Swiss side are thrown out of the competition, it could mean fixtures have to be replayed, with Lennon’s side taking Sion’s place in the competition.

No date has yet been set for the hearing that could yet only spark further controversy but a Uefa spokesman said: “The decision is expected before the beginning of the group stages.”

Uefa president Michel Platini and Fifa chief Sepp Blatter have both lent support to Celtic’s case by criticising Sion’s stance.

 

No organisation can seriously claim a civil court has "no bearing on any punishment handed out to it's member clubs or football organisations". It's not the Mafia, though the structures of the two "organisations" are quite similar.

You know why Sion could field its so-called "inelegible players"? Because your "Mickey mouse court" dediced it and UEFA had to accept it. They just couldn't do anything about it. So they qualified the players, just like the Swiss FA did. The fact that FIFA thinks it can ignore civil jurisdiction is the whole problem about the case. FIFA should reform itself and settle this. They should have done this after Bosman.

Mister Bosman (who was banned by FIFA) also won his case in front of a mickey mouse court. The consequences are well known. If Blatter and Platini think they can ban Sion, let them do. They might well make Sion suffer, even to the point where the club is ruined. But in a few years from now this might come back at them. Not only financially (which of course doesn't bother them), but in the loss of their own jurisdiction.

Nevermind, ugly story. Really can't imagine how this could be resolved until the beginning of the EL. If UEFA overreacts and rushes its decision before the CAS and the civil court do, they might get into serious trouble. At the same time it doesn't seem like CAS and the civil judge will take their decision in time. Maybe Celtic will be replaced by Sion in November after 4 games played. Who knows?

 

I THINK they will carry on playing in the group stages, then render there place, at a later stage in the tournament, as for the SFA they did not help our appeal earlier, and they had ample time to represent Scottish football, but i am afraid they dragged their heels once again. it all comes out you need only 3 day max, to ask for an appeal, that the SFA where quick to point out in rangers favor, but chose to hide when it could have and should have been applied to Celtic case that was open.

 

From what I understand it was only the Swiss FA who accepted the courts ruling and registered the players, the players then were registered with UEFA who were unaware of the situation until the involvement of FIFA, Sion and the Swiss FA were then warned by both UEFA and FIFA before the Europa League first leg that if they play ineligible players then action will be taken against both parties.

The case of Jean-Marc Bosman was one of workers rights against a FIFA transfer rule, not against any punishment handed out by FIFA. He was out of contract with his club which at that time meant the club still held his registration and were due a transfer fee for any move, he was on reduced wages due to being out of contract and decided to take it to court as a freedom of workers movement case citing the fact that he was no longer under contract and he should be free to leave the club. He at no point was banned by FIFA and at no point took FIFA to court over any punishment handed out to him. It wasn't an internal disciplinary matter, in fact it had nothing at all to do with discipline and isn't even remotely similar to Sion's case.

 

The Swiss paper is saying that Sion could serve the ban next season...http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.lematin.ch/sports/football/super-league/affaire-sion-luefa-met-la-pression-sur-lassociation-suisse-de-football&ei=-jVeTpTGE4vPgAeNnsiNAg&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBwQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dla%2Bmatin%2Bsion%2Buefa%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DzP6%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-USfficial%26prmd%3Divns

wrong link last time

 

Sion's players - not the club - addressed the civil court. Because they are not allowed to work. I do actually see similarities. Makes it even more difficult to punish the club, by the way. Sion did nothing, the players did.

Of course Bosman and the Sion case are not 100% alike. Still there are parallels: Fifa and Uefa don't want civil jurisdiction to intervene into their affairs. But things are heading into this direction. No idea who will win this. We all don't know. Numerous experts have recently showcased their opinion on this - no clear result. We'll have to wait and see. It's just a nightmare for everyone involved. Though I do understand your position, it's just not as simple as: Sion cheated, Sion out, Celtic in. The question if Sion has actually cheated is not yet resolved.

 

Think sion will serve the ban next season

 

Swiss paper 'Le Matin' now speculating that Sion suspension might mean a UEFA ban NEXT season (2012-13), clearing them to play this term




If true this is a fuking joke. Sion are a mid to low table team in the Swiss League they'll probably not qualify for Europe.

UEFA/FIFA = corrupt.

 

What an absolute joke!

 

* it we are clutching at straws we lost they where better lets win the spl hope to have another player in win the spl and get into CL next season .
Hang our heads up high and put all this * storm behind us its a shame we were * but thats life

 

Sion signed the players during a transfer embargo, that's what they did, it's hardly nothing, the club broke the sanctions imposed on them. The players shouldn't even be there nevermind going to courts complaining they can't work, incidently since they were still getting paid I'm surprised that the court even listened to their case. What will it be next? Players taking their club to court because their manager dropped them from the team and now they can't work? Don you see how stupid it gets when you let idiot judges make decisions on something they know nothing about.

There is no parallel at all, Sion's case is about continuously breaking FIFA regulations and they want a local court to intervene on internal disciplinary matters. Jean-Marc Bosman's case was a matter of employment legislation.

 

Do we really want to got through all this * and moaning to prob finish bottom of the table if we get in we might as well wait until we are in a better position to compete and save further humiliation.
lets get the spl in the bag sign one or two "big" buys like we were promised and take a new view into sucess the proper way into europe

 

STV Grant: An update to come on on Sion before 4pm

 

Firstly, I think the delay of this decision almost means 100% that celtic wont get in. Had they wanted to replace Sion Id imagine they would do it asap in order to get appeals, etc, out the way.

I think this is an awful situation for Celtic and particularly Sion fans. How are people supposed to book tickets to the away days not knowing if their club will be there. It is just poor decision making either way and shows how little UEFA think about the fans in situations such as these

 

Two rumours..

"Udinese updates website with Celtic instead of Sion"

"Radio reports hearing from the swiss press that sion will get banned from europe next year" (Not this season)