Lennon Calls For An End To Offensive Chanting

Lads the Provisionals campaign was a just one as well
I believe in say 50 years or so time then the UK goverment/monarchy will aknowledge that as well the same way ole lizzy droopy drawers did this week with the easter rising men!

I wont wait till then... i already know theres was a just campaign ..the UK goverment knows it too which is why they brokered a ceasefire with them & why top sinn fein men are now in goverment in the North.

 

Actually, police officer will only be able to use the force of the 'law' if you agree to the statutes of their legislations. I have contacted Strathclyde police myself, and have been told that they have no information of sectarianism about these songs, and are only willing to act - in CP - on a list of chants that Celtic deem rejectful.

Terrorism Act? I think you better check that one again.

Police officers have regularly used closure orders on pubs and venues playing Irish rebellion songs ONLY.

 

they wont be able to do that. to do so they would have to include the pre 1921 IRA as a proscribed organisation. that's never going to happen. the chief constable blatantly lied when he said the botob was illegal and that he had convictions. it's not illegal, so long as the add ons arent sung. anyway that's all besided the point the rebs should be kept for the pub. it just makes us look backward persisting in singing rebs in this day and age at football grounds.

nite nite all

 

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Great video here. Listen to the names the British used to call are heroes. Sound familiar?

 

I'm sorry but your being very niave, they discredit our club and make our manager a hate figure not because of a few rebel songs! They do this because the media is completely bias in Rangers favour, along with the referees and there is an anti-Irish catholic bigotry behind it all.

Yet you would have us change to appease the bigots because they won't change. I don't agree with that, Scottish society should be the one under the microscope after the events this season.

 

Spot on mate.

 

I think that people may have differing opinions on what "rebs" actually are.

In my opinion the songs that Lennon is referencing, whether he has been told to or not, are obviously just any mentions of the IRA. We all know that there is no sectarianism involved in those chants at all but the fact is that people forget the events and circumstances and now the IRA are simply remembered as terrorists.

Because of this I think it's time to drop any mention of them from chants because people who don't know the history or perhaps just have a different view could find it offensive and it could tarnish the name of our club. It really wouldn't be too hard to cut out any mentions of them.

 

doesnt debating about this get tiresome?

you'se have been at it all night

but dyou know what, iv realised that i dont give a * what we sing, im not irish, i dont have much irish heritage, so its not as if i have much emotional attachment to the rebs, i like some of the songs but it wouldnt effect me if they werent sung, but i understand that if i was irish i might feel strongly about people tellling me not to sing about my people's history and heritage, so if you feel strongly about the subject, sing away, i dont care, its not as bad as "up to our knee's in * blood", as you guys are singing for the freedom fighters, which cant really be classed as sectarian.

so sorry if i offended anyone earlier by saying they shouldnt sing those songs, i was being ignorant about other folks attachment to the subject, so my apoligies

 

We shouldn't bow down to ignorance mate.

 

Fair does mate takes balls to say that

 

so we let other peoples ignorance/lack of education of our views and heritage stop us from doing what we do??

 

Hail Hail.

 

lucky i have 2

 

I think the worst thing about all of this is that people in general and somewhat painfully in our own support class anyone who sings rebels as uneducated, especially if they are young. Older supporters are more fortunate as their views are at least accepted, if not respected.

I have received looks of disguist from members of our own support whilst singing pro Republican songs. However, what they don't understand is that even though I am young, it is possible to have an opinion on political issues, whilst carrying on the traditions of our great club. And I am well within my rights to do so at a football match. It may be irrelevant in some people's opinion, not in mine.

I sympathise with the views and actions of the Irish Republican Army. Simple. Just because I am 17, wear trackies, speak in Scottish slang, and swear a lot, doesn't mean I can't be articulate and have an opinion on issues which I am capable of justifying. Even though I have only missed 7 games this year, you get the impression sometimes that you are not respected within your own support, perhaps due to the stereotypes attatched to young people nowadays. Of course, all young football fans spend the weekend drinking on street corners, thrive in violence and adopt extreme views to impress their friends and because it will give them much sought after recognition.

The truth is that I am extremely interested in history and will be attending university next year, to study it in further depth, having being successful in the subject at school. I would consider myself to have a good understanding of Irish history, unlike some people on here. ( including one guy who didn't even know who Aiden McAnespie was ). I will not be afraid to express my pro Republican views in the university environment, nor will I dare stop expressing them at Celtic Park and the several away grounds I regularly attend.

So Padraig 1916, much like yourself I sincerely hope our heritage does not die out, and I will be doing my utmost to ensure this doesn't happen. The board claim the name of our club is tarnished by singing pro republican songs. I am afraid they could not be further from the truth, as by abandoning these songs we are abandoning our history and the reason why our club exists.

 

Well this is the difference of opinion. For me shouting IRA in the middle of chants is not as important as appearing to the world that we are not "the other side of the coin" as we get tarred. It * me off more than anything that people equate us to rangers fans. We are better and I want the world to see that. So yeah if we are simply thought of as supporting terrorists I would rather just cut it out entirely.

 

* how the world thinks of us! For Christ's sake this is a moral issue to be debated not simply an opportunity for some to be belligerent and some to be pacifists!
The first step to actually having your voice heard is to form an opinion on the matter of what these songs are about. Singing "oo ah up the ra" is most definitely sectarian. BotoB? No chance in * * is that sectarian. What pish.

A lot of you need to stop sitting on the fence about the political connotations of the lyrics of these songs. It, in my opinion, is morally wrong to glorify the current dissident republicans. They are hoods to me, nothing else. If it weren't people standing around playing with the ends of their shirts wondering what other people think of them and were people standing up and saying "no, this is morally wrong" there might actually be something done about it.

 

im all for MOST of the rebs... but when watching celtic from spain or italy and all u can hear is IRA these foreigners will take it at face value. for the good of our club - "a club open to all" - i think its time to stop

 

Extreme Ironing!

 

when i hear the rebs getting sung at games i just look at the participants and think "grow up"

 

i think we should stop singing rebs because the war's over and we are made to look like backward idots just like the huns with their obsession with all things in the past.