Live Bombs Sent to Lenny

This. Well said.

 

Used the word 'people' because that's precisely what I meant: not just Lennon in particular. Every single time I reply to one of your posts, you respond by resorting to trying to twist my words. Speaks volumes.

You get extremists and terrorists in every country. It's not right, but it's certainly not an exclusively Scottish problem, by any stretch of the imagination.

 

What relevance does it have whether there are extremists in other countries?

We're talking about Scotland here. Stop making excuses.

 

"His daughter Gemma, 18, had two Ulster flags, an Ulster Volunteer Force plaque and a clock with a picture of King Billy on her bedroom wall.
She told her father’s trial the clock was a present from her parents."

 

Where do I twist your words? This thread is about Neil Lennon and it is you who are trying to twist it into something more general. I have no doubt that the populous as a whole would not be in favour of these deeds however this has not translated to sympathy toward Neil Lennon. Perhaps if you had read my initial post(which was the one you replied to) you would have noticed my point was solely made on the treatment of Neil Lennon.

I have never said that this type of behaviour is exclusive to Scottish society. Does this mean it cannot be condemned? I could condemn this just as readily if it happened in my own country. Does not condoning the behaviour of the SMSM make me a bigot? I have become accustomed to vindication of these cases in the media. I did not expect to read it on this forum.

 

What is he making excuses for? He quite clearly stated in his previous post that he thought this guy should never have been released and originally charged with attempted murder. I don't think he's making excuses. Merely replying to Gabriel's nitpicking over the use of a word. Has anything he's said been false?

 

I think claiming a fellow Tim is bigoted or are at least spouting "bigoted nonsense" (because they felt Scotland was an intolerant backwater still stuck in the 17th centurty) was jumping the shark a bit.

 

I made a point how this case was treated differently because it concerned NL. Replying to this using general terms takes my post out of context. Pointing out he has failed to take my central point is nitpicking in your eyes!!!

 

I'm sure I read it was impossible to charge them with attempted murder because the bombs didn't have any fuses.

It was like sticking fireworks through someone's postbox that weren't lit as opposed lit to lighting them and then posting them through and them exploding in the persons house.

Not really a good enough reason for me personally them not getting charged with attempted murder but supposedly in legal terms it wouldn't have stood up.

They should've locked them up and threw away the key. If they were Muslim, I've no doubt it'd have been a different outcome.

 

the reason why this country is filth..including the fannies running it

 

I think he was responding to you also speaking in general terms with regard to blaming scottish society and saying that 'most scottish people' could see mitigating circumstances for their actions, add to that your claim that it would be viewed more heinously if it was a Muslim perpetrating these crimes, is total conjecture.

There is a section of the media that have said some outrageous things such as he has brought it on himself, usually the half-wit back page writing morons that are a blight on the country and this definitely needs to be addressed as well as the vile knuckle draggers from the scum club but i do agree with him that most scottish people do not condone this whatever the circumstances.

 

The racism and terrorism against the Irish and Catholics in Scotland is completely ignored by the other parts of Britain especially the ruling * in England. Imagine if this was a Muslim that sent a Jewish player this! It would front page news, it would be discussed for days and months. "Incitement to racial hatred!" would be shouted by every MP until they had no voice left. You can bet there would be justice as well. Not this kind of justice out within 3 years! What a sick joke our justice system is.

 

Perhaps my post was a little all encompassing. However I do not believe I was referring to just .01% of the population. The media angle can be looked at two fold. The media especially the tabloids like to tell people what they want to hear and are often reflective of popular opinion. The media also can influence those who do not hold a strong opinion. Your average Joe Soap who knows little about NL will often believe and be influenced by what he reads in the media.

The other fact I base my opinion is the way Neil was roundly booed at other stadia around the country. Fans who disliked him as a player should have has sympathy for his plight and given him a break.

 

Ok calling him bigoted was too much. I still don't think he was making excuses for it he was arguing the point made by Gabriel that scottish society allowed it and most scottish people condoned it due to mitigating circumstances. There is a section of scottish society that is prone to such behaviour and a lot of morons in the media have been inept in their condemnation of it but I don't agree that scottish society as a whole and most scottish people condone this.

 

There's no excuse, and I'm not trying to make one, but Gabriel blamed our entire society, as though it were an exclusively Scottish problem. That's why my comment about extremism in other countries was relevant.

 

I'd like to add the Friends of Ireland were also sent a bomb package and therefore that would make 4 targets for these 2 extremist terrorist madmen.
Take Neil Lennon and FOI aside for the moment and consider they actually attacked parts of the establishment in Scotland an MSP and a QC the evidence said that one of them said to his daughter there could be a large bang does that not constitute that they themselves thought that the products were viable bombs ?

These 2 should have been behind bars for an extremely long time! in fact maybe never released! just because they happened not to actually be able to produce viable bombs does not mean that their intention was not to kill

They should have been charged with intent to kill at least 4 people and they should have been charged with endangerment to Her Majesty's Postal workers also other charges relating to spreading terror fear and alarm.

I concur that had this been muslims sending these to members of the British establishment, parliament then i doubt they would have ever seen the light of day again.

and as a country we are supposed to be fighting sectarianism pfft
its a * sick joke that's what it is

 

Perhaps I have worded it wrong but you should note that I refer to Scottish society and the Scottish people as separate entities. By Scottish society I am referring to those who purport to speak for the people mainly the media. Also note the use of the word most rather than "entire society"


What in effect I am saying is the powers that be turned the general population against Neil Lennon. Those who knew nothing of him have only what they read to form an opinion.

I find it ironic that since this story is broke I am the only one being called a bigot.

 

I do think it's far too far to say 'most' Scots can see mitigation for it (and also to call Scotland 'an intolerant backwater', for that matter), but you're right Sean: I shouldn't have called Gabriel bigoted when I don't even know him. Apologies Gabriel.

 

Disgusting, 3 years..


Countries justice system is a * disgrace..

Hopefully now these 2 hateful * get a taste of what they put lenny and others through, fear in there own homes..
I hope they live like that for the rest of there miserable lives in between taking hammerings off of local tims..

Scum of the earth..

 

When life for Neil Lennon was at its most frightening , the support he got from the SFA and the SPL was noticeable only by its absence . The few people charged were clearly charged by the least serious offence that the prosecution service could bring . The mass booing by opposition fans was never condemned by clubs owners/chairmen and of course never by the Scottish media who seemed to believe he brought it on himself . Even some of the so called Celtic fans on certain Celtic forums blamed Lennon himself .