Poppy Thread.

You did indeed state your minimum specifications for being "celtic minded"

In other words a true supporter.

 

There's nothing wrong with not being "Celtic minded".

If anyone wants to leave the political aspect out of things then fine, my problem is with those who do this and then slate the supporters that do partake in the political aspect calling them a "disgrace", asking for them to be banned etc. That's my problem.

 

At first I was not particularly enamoured by the slightly hamfisted nature of the banner, but I fully understood the sentiment. That is to say, when all's considered, I believe that bringing the poppy symbol into Celtic Park was at best insensitive and at worst a calculated deal, weighing up the offense it causes to people who have either directly suffered at the hands of HM Armed Forces or feel the poppy is now a propaganda symbol that simply has no place given it's increasing use to soften the horrific realities of UK actions in the here and now. Weighed up and came down in favour of outside pressure and against Celtics own people.

Again, wikileaks, anyone. Leave down the Mail and switch off Sky for a minute.

Where were the avowedly apolitical posters here presumably worried about Celtics Corporate profile when the poppy was forced into Celtic Park. It's hypocrisy, sheer hypocrisy.

I'm feeling guilty now in hoping that the try it on for size in banning supporters. In my opinion they shall reap a whirlwind.

Despite the nonsense some posters keep spouting, Celtics ethos still carries a very distinct awareness and critical, unabashed thinking. Granted there are the prawn sandwich Brigade who don't seem to grasp this issue, but I'll predict now the suits will not dare ban Celtic supporters, or else they will perform some shoddy sleight of hand as an act of appeasement. Is this what we've become?

Just another club? Just about the 90 minutes on a Saturday? So sad.

As for the fawning idiots who try and differentiate the SFA protesting from this issue on the grounds it is football based, you know fine well the crux of that matter for Celtic supporters is that football itself has not been the sole influences on SFA actions, so that lie of comfort should be discarded.

Why do the sheep want to have their cake and eat it?

 

Not wanting folk that wear the poppy supporting Celtic.

Saying you are the ''real fans'' again.

Saying folk on this board aren't ''real'' celtic fans.

 

What was celtic minded about that banner? It had absolutely nothing to do with celtic or football, that's why it was a disgrace having it paraded at our football stadium.

It was like we've got another big story for you guys, we'll put this big stupid * banner up on saturday and make a complete * of our club!

 

My first comment was in response to the poppy being on our hoops. If anyone wants to wear a poppy and support Celtic then fine, I don't agree with the poppy whatsoever but I agree with freedom of choice for anyone who wants to wear it.

I don't want it anywhere near our hoops though.

Secondly, that was in response to someone who obviously does not have a clue and who is in no way in tune with the feelings of the support.

 

It's not really an option to turn a blind eye to the political aspect if it directly reflects on the whole support..

If last years events are repeated then seconds after the minutes silence is over and the oppositions fans start their inevitable vocal attack of SCUM-SCUM-SCUM-SCUM-SCUM towards our support , is it fair on the Celtic fan who's brought his two small children to the game with a sole purpose of supporting the team..
Is it fair on the teenage fan who gets a bottle bounced off his head as he makes his way out of the ground , having done nothing but sit in silence while a small group around him decided to sing during the minutes silence..
Should the father with the two small kids , and the teenager , have known better than to go along to the game in the first place , because it was inevitable the real Celtic minded fans would be there in full voice defending the club , or should it be those ones who went along to make their protests be heard , that should have stayed away for just that one day..

Just from reading this thread there's been some people talking about handing back a season ticket or stopping going to games because of the actions of other fans..
It's a bit sad that it would come to that..

 

Yawn, round and round in circles we go.

 

Err yes I do? How don't I?

I said that you may believe that there is more people of your view because the rebel mentality is revered by some and people keep the element going. However, there are loads who are not politically biased. Just because you only hear the rebel sides of things doesn't mean that 100% of the support or even a majority is of that stance. Once again, you speak generally- you can't do that.

 

hmm, my very words t'other night

 

I thought the minute's silence was being held in the ground ? Not outside the ground or all the surrounding areas of Falkirk for that matter. Last season's silence was impeccably observed, I was there.

It is sad that we have come to that aye - the attempted Hibernianisation of Celtic Football Club. Sad times.

 

I feel they were wrong to protest. It was incredibly self centered of the GB to do so. There opinions have done nothing but brought bad press to the club.

 

If you feel that the majority of the Celtic support is not against the red poppy on our hoops then aye, I feel you are out of tune.

 

I was there too and I'd hardly say it was impeccable albeit it was a Falkirk fan screaming abuse towards the Celtic end that started it.

 

Back to thinking folk who don't agree with you aren't ''true'' fans.

 

I have stated that I have no problem with people having their view. You don't have to wear a Poppy- the club shirt doesn't have to have one on. But I think it should, I think it's right to. my main gripe was with the display.

But some may not wear a Poppy, but they still may not be politically inclined one way or another, they may simply not wish to wear one. After all you don't have to wear a one to understand/ show respect- but I think it is a good thing.

I think that you and a few others are in the minority in favour of the GB banner.

 

Fair point I suppose that it's inside the ground where the silence is observed , but the ones outside the ground who sang intentionally last year , are just passing the buck around because like I mentioned the accusations of being scum , or being on the end of some kind of retaliation outside the ground after the game wouldn't happen if there wasn't anything to provoke it in the first place..

 

Pretty * if the Celtic fans who observed the silence get the bother from other fans

 

I don't want to cause you any offence, 18celtic88, but are you being deliberately obtuse as to the distinct ethos the club has had since it's inception, or do you just not know? Granted there has always been the underlying Irish Celtic/Scots Celtic rivalry thingy (never forget the drunk who spat out how proud he was of the Lions having no Irish on the pitch ), but Celtic Park as long as I can remember has always been a hotbed of politically astute, left of centre critical thinking, as well as the football!

Where or when did all this get airbrushed out? Was it in one of the sponsorship deals?

Not everyone has to claim to be immersed totally in it.. but to say it's not there or never was. Come on.

I genuinely can't imagine your equivalent on Barcelona, St. Pauli, Boca forum. They'd be laughed out of town. Are we the first of those select "special" clubs to die and conform?

 

Well there was a poll done here earlier and I would say your thoughts were the minority, 99 voted to 178 doesn't lie.