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Poppy Thread.

Discussion in 'TalkCeltic Pub' started by alsybhoy, Nov 8, 2010.

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  1. joydivision

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    I said people generally associate the poppy with WW1 and WW2, I feel that's probably true. But your right yeah, it is to remember the dead from conflicts. It is not a political rememberence about the causes/reasons for those conflicts though...it is simply a day to remember the dead.

    There are millions of human beings out there who deserve that. I guess you can philosophise all you want about devils, Ireland, shame....that is your prerogative, but many more people like myself are akin to think of other more just reasons why the poppy IS important. I think of my Pappa, * bless his soul...I think of 17 year olds signing up and dying by the million in the trenches.

    This banner could have been held up and walked down a street, or aloft in a park, it has no place at a football game. Football teams because of there very make-up are seen as beacons of identification, we all wear the same strips, we all support the hoops, our team etc, togetherness etc. A banner like that shows others that our fans are against the poppy (rightly or wrongly) and that is not true, Celtic do not believe that and many many of our fans do not follow the banners sentiments.

    The poppy is not a political emblem or sentiment, just as Celtic should not be. Remember the dead not the politics involved.
     
  2. SuperNick

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  3. CfC jack CfC

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    No - that's a media myth of the highest order.

    For example, in the book named "Celtic Minded" (oddly enough :celt_2:) Tommy Gemmell explains that he, a Scottish Protestant, completely understands where we came from, he understands our Irish and Catholic roots and has absolutely no problem with them being celebrated.

    Tommy Gemmell is a Celtic Minded Legend.
     
  4. CfC jack CfC

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    A *' massive, massive pat on the back for trying to rejuvenate and keep alive the Celtic of old, * bless them :celt_2:
     
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    :celt_2::shamrock::celt_2::shamrock:
     
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    I'm sure none would have any problem with poppy if it was about those who died during two world wars.

    But making charity out of this and supporting veterans who served in Ireland, Iraq etc. is just twisting it all to suit their Hun agenda. Some of our Irish and Scottish fans can't turn blind eye to that and rightfully so.
     
  7. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    I'm afraid being 'Celtic minded' (a complete bullshit tag in the first place) has nothing to do with Ireland or Catholicism.

    I happen to be a Catholic of Irish descent but the club is one for all regardless of nationality, race, creed or religion and that's what we stand for.

    The club isn't going to be dictated to in its values by a group formulated under a false premise of bringing back some atmosphere only to mask their true purpose which is to use Celtic as a vehicle to voice their political and moral beliefs.

    In essence a group of teenagers with a drum and some banners does not epitomise Celtic or its support.
     
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    Rejevunate the Celtic of old through disrespectful displays? Aye ok. Whatever.

    They should remember who are protecting their liberty. Lest we forget.
     
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  10. CfC jack CfC

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    I'm afraid you are completely wrong, the only thing spot on is your second paragraph although it's not a club that is open to "all" as such, that's a load of birthday card pish.
     
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    Aye we are having our liberty protected by murderous mercenaries. Right you are.
     
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    It's the arrogance of the GB that annoys me more than anything. Using Celtic Park as their own soap box. Celtic isn't there to provide you with a platform for your politics. Get a ticket for * Question Time and put your hand up ffs.

    The posts in this thread aren't much better. This whole 'I'm Celtic minded and you're not, such a shame for you' pish is embarassing to read!
     
  13. Belfast_Bhoy Gold Member Gold Member

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    Voting you for Noble Peace Prize!! Perfect reaction to a stupid decision by the GB. Well said mate!!:50:

    Any action taken by CFC is fully deserved and I hope it makes the rest of them take note because, for the most part, I agree with the GB's agenda in bringing back the noise and helping the atmosphere at CP, and to loose them all due to sturborness over this would be a shame.

    I personally would not wear a poppy, but i havnt a baldy notion what the personal beliefs of Gary Hooper or Antohony Stokes are on the matter so who am I to tell them to or not to wear a a fecking poopy flower on their top.

    Joke, and an absolute embarressment.
     
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    You're referring to them all under the same bracket. Once again.

    Just remember who would be protecting you if these shores were under attack.

    This is what makes it all the more disrespectful.
     
  15. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    Instead of telling me I'm wrong feel free to have a counter argument.

    The 2 aims of Brother Walfrid were to provide food for the poor East end of Glasgow and to try and bond a fractured relationship between the native Glaswegians and immigrant Irish community.

    You can try and dress that up as you like but those are 2 set in stone facts.
     
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    Ok but I still fail to see why you can say that our fellow supporters are not celtic minded, just because they disagree with a political statement that was made on saturday.

    If a fan thinks about celtic, talks about celtic, watches celtic, listens to celtic, sings songs about celtic and celtic makes their lifes happy when they win and gets them a little down when they lose, but doesn't support the nonsense outwith the football they can't call themselves "celtic minded"

    Your theory is that you have to support the movements of the irish and catholics to be considered celtic minded.

    Do me a favour and read the inside of your top.
     
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    Fractured being an absolute euphemism, but aye I never denied that - you're preaching to the choir with that :celt_2:
     
  18. joydivision

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    The man is not 'wrong', it is his opinion.
     
  19. CfC jack CfC

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    Ok here goes - "Football without the fans is nothing" - Jock Stein

    Indeed :celt_2:
     
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    What does that mean? Who isn't allowed to support Celtic? Jews? Mormons? Protestants?