Have the Strachan haters got what they deserved?

I think Strachan stayed 1 year too long. He should have walked after 3IAR with his head held high. In the end it all proved too much and we went on a downwards spiral after the January transfer window. The board had to take a large % of the blame last year. Still think it was right that he left but we really should have replaced him with a better manager.

 

Yes you are right. Strachan was a safe pair of hands. They did make the wrong decision with Mowbray but he wasn't there first choice. Lets not all say Strachan was the best thing since sliced bread

 

Totally agree. I think fans who look back to the MON years as great football and WGS as turgid have a distorted view. WGS brought back wide players, a ball-on-ground passng game etc. I thought it was a big improvement on post-Seville MON's team. There were a couple of times it got laboured in the middle of his 3rd year and in the last few months of his 4th but overall he was very tactically canny, knew what the sort of playes we can afford can and cannot do and played them accordingly. People say we were in a gradual decline but remember that in his 3rd season we made CL last 16 (which I think took it out of us a bit for a while) before our big title charge. To mind he swept all before him except for a couple of 2 month patches. I will never understand how someone so talented at getting success out of modest and cheap players was unpopular. Something lurking in some fans psyches IMO.

 

Managing Celtic isnt a popularity contest, its job where he's paid to deliver results and for 3.5 years out of 4 he was doing a good job.

 

Oh I have got it all wrong. The football under MON was 'turgid' that is not how I remember it. It was fantastic. But again i have got it all wrong because WGS came in and gave us something better with wide players like Camara and Nee Laylor. Give me a break

 

Your what I call a typical Strachan-hater.

Bringing up Camara and Naylor? Clutching at straws when its clear to see the guy was a resounding success for the most part.

Here's a few names to think about:

Douglas, Hedman, Henri Camara, Fernandez, Juninho.

Every manager makes bad signings mate.

 

If WGS wanted to get the calibre of player like Lennon, Sutton, Hartson etc........who cost 6 million each......which would be around 15 million in todays market. He done the best he could.

 

Not a Strachan hater - but a realist. If he was that good how come we let him go. he had no balls to stand up to the board when it mattered. thats why they loved him. If successful football means that much to you then thats your prerogative but Celtic play a cvertain type of way. Stachan or Burns. I know who I would have.

 

He was good for the majority of his time here...and it was definitely the right time to go. End of story. Because Mowbray was a failure doesn't make me want the Strachan that failed last season back.

 

Here here gaz

 

What an ignorant post tbh

Firstly, he didnt get sacked or we let him go. He walked and board asked him to reconsider but he had made up his mind.

Secondly, stand up to board? Explain that nonsense. He accepted a contract where Lawwell was in charge of contract negotiations and transfer policy. No Celtic manager is ever going to get full control after the stupid long term contracts negotiated by MON with several aging players.

We tried out Burns, he didnt have much success

 

I think he would have done better than putting us in danger of a 16 point deficit. The worse WGS ever did was lose on the last day of the season. Not in the same league. My feeling is that under WGS for a 5th season it would have gone to the wire.

 

Rubbish call it want you want he was told that the parting of the ways was 'inevitable'. I don't remember celtic pushing the boat out to keep him. Standing up to the board - well he didn't push them when the team needed strenghtening. He was fiscal manager. There have always been Strachan supporters waiting to jump on the bandwagon and say 'I told you so'. My opinion is that his time came and went. Look to the future and stiop living in the past. celtic were * in his last season.

 

We didn't let him go he quit.

Stand up to the board? What are you on about? What horrible act did the board commit that he didn't stand up to?

We didn't play pretty football under MON either. It was get the ball wide to Thompson / Agathe and get it in the box for Henrik to put away, bet you weren't complaining then.

 

No way was I complaining because what you describe was good. But excuse me the total football we played under WGS passed me by.

 

IMO winning football = good football.

I get the biggest joy when the ball hits the back of the opposition net, although we would all love 10 passes, backheels, stepovers to get there, a goal is a goal eitherway.


WGS will always be respected by me for the incredible way he handled the Tommy Burns press conference.

 

and why was it good?

I'll take a stab at because it was effective and we won games even when we played poorly.

Sound familiar .. hmmmmm

 

What were they suppose to do, hold a gun to his head and make him manage the team. Rolling contracts work both ways and he was free to do whatever he wanted much as Celtic had the option to sack him for pennies at any given moment.

Fiscal Manager? Lawwell was in charge in all money matters, he was in charge of the money with Mowbray and he'll be in charge of the money when the next manager comes in. Its a term in their contract, they agreed to it coming in the door. The manager has no contractual leverage over the Chief Executive and thats the way it should stay. Football managers are football experts not financial experts.

Lawwell let several targets of Strachan slip through his fingers over money and his refusal to break the wage structure for anyone. The club knew that they needed to strengthen but they werent going to sign anyone at any cost either. They had their appraisals and they stuck to them.

Maybe before you move on, you should get you facts straight about what actually happened

 

Listen guys - I say WGS was good and had a decent track record. I simply don't think think he should be romanticised. there has always been people who were simply waiting to have a go at Celtic fans who didn't fancy him as celtic manager. I hope Middlesborough get to play offs. i kinda like him.

 

You were trying to make out that MON played total football a minute ago

And you hated Strachan 5 minutes ago

Are you on the windup?