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SW Corner Stewarding

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by celtictony, Mar 20, 2010.

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  1. James M

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    Well, we are a non-political group, so we try our hardest to have the likes of Hail Hail, Willie Maley, LTPS/This Land is your Land etc sung
     
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    haha that quality, maybe thats why were were getting frisked on entry to the stadium, to cacth those sneaky fans with those dam capri-suns
     
  3. gary88

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    when you try and sing on your own most of the prawn sandwich brigade look at you as if to say shut up so thats why most people try to go the singin section if its empty which it was on saturday so i don't blame them.

    As for the IRA chants as someones said the shame sing much worse and nothing is said over that
     
  4. DanniGhirl

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    I don't care what that other lot do, I'll never judge Celtic fans based on their standards.

    I don't think there is anything wrong with rebel songs, my CD collection will testify to that lol! however, I know plenty Celtic fans who don't like them, therefore they can cause division amongst our own support which is why I don't think they should be sung, especially at a time when we need to stand together.

    As for sectarian songs, they have no place at Celtic Park and if I heard someone singing anything sectarian I'd tell them so as well.
     
  5. paddymcgheesm8

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    cheers lad. i will admit i do sing rebel songs,not at parkhead,but im not ashamed to say i do sing them.why should i? our fathers and fathers before it done it,so why not? at parkhead now it is not acceptable,purely because it is full of guys with their kids and their wives.they are not wanting to offend any1? the huns do it more than us granted,but i for 1 wont budge over for the prawn sandwich mob,lets see them go to rugby park or tyncastle and get abused with their bile and bkj banners.i think not.i go,these guys are the minority.
     
  6. Frank_the_bhoy

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    Hail hail:50:

    Agree, particularly the part in bold.

    People are just openly looking to get offended and are scared of what the meedja (that right lol) say, All very pc people just sitting there looking like zombies, if any of you go to CP and sit through the 90 mins without attempting to sing can I just ask why?
     
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    Although the stewarding is a factor in the lack of atmosphere, there are many others.

    - The fact everyone must remain seated of course, you could guarantee if everyone at the stadium was standing the atmosphere would be better. Sadly health and safety has put a stop to that.

    - Alcohol isn't allowed to be consumed within the stadium, and generally if you're completely bladdered, you will be ejected.

    - People are scared to sing in case they sing anything sectarian or offensive. Even some of the old songs which have been sung for years at CP, words have been modified into 'swear words', some people generally just don't like swearing, therefore won't contribute to the atmosphere. Songs which aren't offensive, child friendly and don't have swearing in them generally catch on a lot better. This certainly isn't the stance I take while at CP, this just may be a factor contributing to the lack of atmosphere.

    - The fact so many young kids and women go the game nowadays. I am in no way trying to be ageist or sexist here, I'm meaning women or kids who are here as part of a family and only really dragged along by the man. People with no real passion for the club. Again, I'm not meaning kids & women going to the games of their own accord.

    There are many other factors which have let to the atmosphere being not quite what it used to be. The stewarding is one of them and needs sorting out, although we shouldn't just pin the blame on bad stewarding.
     
  8. Ibárruri

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    There are enough songs about football and Celtic to be able to have a fantastic atmosphere on the go without anyone even considering themselves to be singing anything sectarian or dodgy. Problem is too few people know the words or are brave enough to join in if folk around them aren't.

    I definitely agree that there are problems regarding all seating and alcohol free venues. Although, I've never seen the point of going to game absolutely wasted. Been to games abroad where there's beer available and people drink in moderation - enough to have a good time but not so much that it * them up. Don't think that not being able to drink in the stadium should be made up for by getting totally tanked up beforehand.

    The sensible solutions would be encouraging people to move to the sections of the stadium where they'd be with like-minded people. 111, 123 and 445 could be singing sections and another section established as the family section. (I've pointed out in this thread and elsewhere that a singing section behind the goals isn't going to work so I think that having these three sections packed and singing would mean hopefully the atmosphere would spread around the stadium.)

    A ticket price cap and allowing people to buy a couple of beers in the stadium would make the game much more accesible and enjoyable too. That and a more softly, softly approach from the stewards.
     
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    I'm seriously against beer in the stadium - yes i'd love it, but i was in newcastle 2 weeks ago & decided to attended the 6-1 game against barnsley (the atmosphere there was brilliant, espessially for a run of the mill game!), but when i went down for a couple of pints, 2 pints & a pie skined me of £11.50!!! no chance i'll be paying that again, oh & you get * plastic cups which the beer doesn't taste the same out of!
     
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    Why should we listen to songs that have nothing to do with Celtic. Roll of Honour??????? Not a Celtic player mentioned in it. Aiden McAnespie......Don't ever recall him splaying for us.

    Rebel songs shouldnt be sang at Parkhead, because we are a club FOR ALL. Catholic, Protestant, Asians, Jews, everybody. So why sing songs that may offend the majority or minority of the crowd.

    Keep it to Celtic songs, with no Up the ra, or Fields of Athenrye without the stupid add-ons
     
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    Using you argument we wouldn't be able to sing Fields of Athenry.

    Songs of culture, history and rebellion are part of society - football is no exception. There is nothing bigoted or sectarian about Irish rebel songs - the sooner people realise that the better.
     
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    Let the people sing is played over the tannoy & doesn't have any words about celtic or celtic players in it?

    Have we to stop singing that aswell??
     
  13. paddymcgheesm8

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    i dont recall him "splaying" either?? these songs are cemented in celtics history,they were sung before we were hear and they will be sung for 100s of more years.celtic are an irish club,and i will sing about the hunger strikers and other rebels who fought to keep ireland free.the folk who are against this are the minority!
     
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    No we're not, we are a Scottish club with a proud Irish history, doesn't make us Irish.

    Any evidence to back up your opinion that the folk who are against the singing of Republican songs are in the minority?
     
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    Heh, too true about English games! :icon_mrgreen: Although, for two cokes and a pie here you won't get much chance out a tenner these days!

    I guess it's down to pricing again. I went to games in Spain, Sweden, Croatia and Germany in the past year or two and they've all been reasonable prices for a beer or two. Plastic cups are pretty much a necessity though, wouldn't be too chuffed if I was wandering about on broken glass at my seat after folk dropping cups when we score a goal or something! :38:

    I'm sure there were calls by SFA/SFL to consider bringing alcohol back into the Scottish game the other year as they were comparing it to rugby in Scotland where you can buy a pint. Most ridiculous one is Firhill. Can go there on a Friday for a rugby game and buy a pint but go there on a Saturday for the football and the taps are covered and you can't buy booze. :87:
     
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    celtic were formed by brother walfrid to help the irish immigrants.wasnt to help the scottish. my anscestors were some of those irish. why not have a poll on it then.those with season books,have they ever sang rebel songs or not.wether at parkhead or at home doesnt matter.
     
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    Well most of the time the celtic songs don't catch on either.

    Yes we are a club for all but we have also got to remember our heritage and the feeling of a lot of our support in ierland, Your protestant and everyone respects that but if you want to support celtic then you do it warts and all, if you don't like the songs we sing then that's tough.

    Try adding to the atmosphere instead of sitting moaning about how offended you are your a grown man (I assume) dry your eyes if you don't like it join in with the songs you don't have a problem with.
     
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    Celtic Play in the SPL which is a scottish league but has proud irish links ....so all in all a Scottish Club :50:
     
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    Celtic were formed in Scotland, the play and always have played in Scotland, we represent Scotland in European competitions, I hate to tell you this but that kinda makes us a Scottish club, we have very strong Irish traditions, something I'm extremely proud off but just because we were formed to help Irish immigrants doesn't make us an Irish club.

    You can enjoy Rebel songs and also believe they shouldn't be sung at Celtic Park, if I want to sing Rebel songs I'll go to a Republican fundraiser, you don't have to be a republican, you don't even have to have any links to Ireland to support Celtic, Rebel songs can and do divide Celtic supporters which is why I don't believe they should be sung.
     
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    well that is your opinion and you are entitled to it.i just think it has got out of hand now and that is why there is no atmosphere at parkhead. if you were to ask most folk on here,what would you rather? the current atmosphere at CP (crisp packets being opened etc) or jumping around the old jungle singing the rebs? i will have the latter thanks.
     
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