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Niall McGinn

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Hendo*, Dec 17, 2009.

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  1. Slaw

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    what do you mean (what does that tell you?) ??..
    Mowbray may dislike him as a person? by your post (about mizuno) you seem to be saying that i should base my answer on Mowbray's thoughts.. correct? I have seen Mizun o play before, and in my opinion he is a better all round player than McGinn.
     
  2. Batch_CFC

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    I would play Robson and McGeady, Hearts always cause us trouble and we shouldn't really play 2 wingers against them even though I don't like Robson that much he's safer and Mcginn can always come on for him.

    If McGeady gets booked he gets booked, McGinn would still do the damage to the huns :icon_mrgreen:
     
  3. jigraptor

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    I voted McGinn because he is the better player....

    I would have McGinn on the left and McGeady on the right.

    But if Robson plays on the wing he covers the full back.

    Robson strengthens our defense...McGinn strengthens our attack.

    Against a team with pacey wingers who can counter attack and expose Hinkels defensive frailties I'd play Robson right wing, McGeady left.

    In any other circumstances I'd play McGinn left McGeady right
     
  4. The Celtbot

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    Robson is not a winger! Can't believe he has started 3 or 4 games in a row there. When he has played alright it is mostly when he plays in the middle. He can't cross worth * and I wouldn't say he is exactly fast either.
     
  5. paulmitchell

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    I'd play McGinn on the wing before Robson, he obviously offers more going forward and seems willing to track back and get stuck in.
    As for sunday I'd go with McGinn before McGeady, they are similar players and playing McGinn wouldnt weaken the team for sundays game I dont think. I'd much rather have McGeady for the OF than sunday.
     
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    Mcginn was outstanding tonight! Think he will bo on a high and should be rewarded for tonights performance
     
  7. greengrocer

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    McGinn every time for me. Don't see why he isn't starting, class wee player
     
  8. Markybhoy

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    Niall McGinn was our best player tonight - no question. However, he did have to go off with a knock so who knows if he'll even be fit for Sunday?

    Personally I'd bring Barry Robson back in at Tynecastle. He has a history of doing well against the wee Huns and we need his aggression and willingness to get stuck in through there. I can already hear some people going 'It's not a hammer throwing contest it's a football match' but I still do believe when you go to grounds like Tynecastle you need a good quota of players who will fight, scrape and tackle for every ball. We never get it easy through there and a guy like Robson will be of more use to us in this fixture than Niall McGinn would be. Just my opinion.
     
  9. doctor venglos

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    Agreed :50:
    It should be horses for courses. We must win this match as I suspect
    Rangers will win their earlier game.
     
  10. Tictical_Genius

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    Everyone seems so sure that McGeady would miss the game on the 3rd if he were to be booked against Hearts, is this fact? There are another two games to be played before the huns after Sunday, so i'm wondering why a player who has gone over the bookings threshold would be able to play two matches before sitting out the third.

    This sounds exceptionally vague, i'm sure the rule book dosen't state "2 weeks or so". Anyone got the definitive answer?
     
  11. doctor venglos

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    A booking on Sunday would put him out of the hun game.

    The punishment kicks in 14 after you get the points for going through the threshold. If he got booked against Killie on the 30th he'd miss the game nearest but only after 13th on January. If he got booked on 26th - Only after the 9th of January etc.
     
  12. Tictical_Genius

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    Will take your word for it, just seems strange that a penalty would be enforced 14 days after the event and not before...

    I reckon we could field a team without McGeady and still comfortably beat Hearts. However it would be sods law if we rested McGeady on Sunday only for him to pick up a red in the following two games ruling him out on the 3rd anyway.

     
  13. mmmikey

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    Ahhh yes I've been raving about McGinn for weeks and good to see him putting in a great performance against a decent (away European) side!

    Saying that, Hearts away might be too soon for him. I don't see why he can't be used as an impact sub if plan a (Robson) stutters. I can't see us resting McGeady tbh, he's just too important and the thinking might be that we might be jeopardising 3 points now rather than on Jan 3rd!
     
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    You have been mmmikey and he played a great game last night but if he is playing well there's no better time like now for him to play in the first team as a start ,what you dont want is him playing out his skin to be told that he is dropped for another to come in ,he will quickly lose confidence but he deserves a start because of the way he has played in most games he has came on and last night confirmed that he can play the game at a good level .
     
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    I picked McGinn because there was no option for both. We need McGinn for the pace and cutting edge. McGeady should be kept on the bench in case he picks up another yellow. I would see how this pans out and use McGinn as an impact sub against the Huns. But if he keeps putting in performances like he has, I don't see any reason why McGinn and McGeady can't both start against the blue nose *.
     
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    Doubt it. Why hasn't he played up until last night? TM obvisouly thinks hes still some bit away from being a regular in the first team don't you think? There is no way that if Maloney had been fit in all the previous games that Robson would have started ahead of him. I'd like to see McGinn given the chance but i don't see him breaking through this season if im honest. The fact that a slow CM is keeping McGinn out of the team says it all really. It's frustrating but then so are alot of TM's team selections and Substitutions.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
     
  17. mmmikey

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    True that is the flipside but I guess we've got to bear in mind that Robson has been doing alright and offers that bit of dig defensively. Basically hasn't done anythnig wrong and is by far our best set piece taker, which does add a lot.

    McGeady similarly is on fire and imo shouldn't be rested. That silly backheel against Motherwell is looking really stupid now.

    Anyway, this is why I think he should be given half an hour at the end to roast their weaker full-back. He's been playing really well but maybe just not enough to dislodge someone from a team that has been getting wins lately.
     
  18. mmmikey

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    I think this has been purely a defensive decision. Mowbray got an almost job-costing ripping in the past couple of months due to our defensive frailties. Maloney's injury came coincidentally at this time and it made perfect sense to stick in a battler (who happens to be our best set piece taker) to help shore things up. I think it has made a difference.

    With 2 solid centre-backs I fully imagine that either McGinn or McCourt would have been ahead of Robson...
     
  19. kennydal

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    McGinnwill for sure be a great impact player wether he starts or finishes a game ,there is a lot of competiton for this role and he needs to keep his head up but Mowbray must use him aswell ,he is ready for it and we could see how disapointed he was at coming off last night ,but his future is bright and if he is coached properly he will be a player to be reckoned with way in the future.
     
  20. kierancfc

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    Yes that's true, it is defeinately a defensive tactic but i think had Maloney been fit he would have been playing and not Robson and you can hardly call Maloney a battler. McGinn deserves his chance but i just don't see him getting it unfortunately :54: