WGS attacks Mowbray

They are not first team players when you arrive ffs! Whats yours?

 

So these same * players that Strachan bought were good enough to beat Milan, Man U & a very good Shakhtaar team amongs others and win 3 titles and get to last 16 CL twice? If Strachan was so * then how did he achieve this?
Maybe they just became * because Mogga doen't know how to work with them.
If you want silky football and no trophies then good for you, but Strachan worked with a limited budget and built a team that was back amongst the European elite. What other manager could do that?
Mowbray won't. He already said he needs money to get us success, WGS done it DESPITE having limited funds and a support that just slagged him constantly because his face didn't fit. I prefered our football over MON's long ball stuff. MON had the luxury of Larsson, Hartson & a few other great players, but it was ugly football at times and he's a *.

And why should WGS bother about what the Hun press do? He's at Middlesbrough now and doesn't need to worry if he upsets a few anti-Strachanites who wouldn't recognise his contribution the Celtic's history if it kicked them in the baws.

Oh and I had to laugh at this..... 'Naka came after he sent the scouts to see someone else.'

So he sent a scout to look at one player who clearly didn't match up to WGS assessment but he signed Naka. So that doesn't count?

Edit. WGS never signed Naka.

 

Will you please stop saying this. I'm sick of this myth being peddled. I didn't like Gordon Strachan because he came across as an arrogant little * in the media, he treated the fans as though they were blind idiots and the football was absolute gash to watch for a big percentage of the time.

Those were my reasons. No more, no less.

I did not dislike him because his face didn't fit or because he was not a 'Celtic man'. I've never met anyone who cited either of those things as the reason why they didn't like him.

 

Luck my *. You do not do it in both home and Europe across 3 years with just luck. If you believe that is luck then you believe in magic and the tooth fairy. There is no such thing as luck sustained for years across several competitions. And that * about worst Rangers team etc....that team beat loads of good sides and got to the UEFA final. You give him no credit for any of his success, always say the opposition is crap, do not credit him for making young sidelined players first picks, do not give him credit for his signings (in fact the only signing WGS had no role was Camera who MON had already signed). Crazy strachan hating dillusions.

The only statistic that matters is he had the best SPL run since Stein, two CL last 16. All the ifs and buts and attempts to discredit them are just spin and a clear baise against him when put against his record which spans domestic and European football and spans 3 years in both theres spheres. His record achieved at a time when our ability to compete for players and wages was collapsing.

If the players are so bad and none of this is Mogga's fault for having some idealised pipe dream then why the * are we suddenly really * in Europe after being decent for years at a far higher level that te Europa? These '* WGS players' are our most successful group in 35 years FFS. Mogga, take some responsibility. A bad workman blames his tools.

 

We will never agree on Strachan. There is no point in trying. For me he was lucky. It ran out.

 

You're not making sense to me tbh

Maloney and McGeady both won POYT & YPOTY under Strachans management. They became the players they are today because of him. Purely coincidence that happened I suppose or was it moving Maloney from up front to left wing or dropping McGeady until he tracked back etc??


Nakamura wasnt a Strachan signing? Explain that one. Next you'll be telling me that he didnt want Boruc and that he was a MON signing

 

Exactly, i knew you would get it in the end.

 

The 'He was a * at interviews' line was the pishest excuse of them all. The football under O'Neill was gash to watch at time and the football under Mowbray is gash to watch mostly, but Strachan brought us more success than MON & I dare say Mowbray will never reach such dizzy heights with us.
So it seems like his face just didn't fit, did it?

 

He should have done the lottery three weeks running then and he would have won it.
Luck?

 

His embarassing media handling was just the cherry on the cake. The cake itself was the boring * he had the team churning out on the pitch.

I've told you my reasons and none of them were that 'his face didn't fit'.

 

lucky that Rangers were so bad. Then it ran out and a complete bunch of useless * stopped four in a row because he thought his team were better tha n they were.

In europe we were crap. Against Manure they * all over us and only two pieces of brilliance and a missed penalty beat them. I loved it, went mad etrc, but i didnt kid myself on that we had moved up a level. you obviously did.

against Benfica was probably the best performance from his teams, i thought we were grea tthat night. They were honest, industrious and strong.

They were also dreadful to watch for the most part.

They ran out of luck last year. we now have to pay for that misjudgement, loss of season books circa 10k, CL money £12-14m?.

Rangers have not bought a player in 18 months and they won the league.
that for me sums him up. Lucky and it ran out.
surely you are not suggesting a team that couldnt win the league last year is a good team. Or, that the man who thought they were had sound judgement?

If you do, then we are even further apart than I first thought.

 

Its not a myth. WGS is regarded as a highly entertaining genial personality that runs rings around hacks and that everyone other than a core of wrong headed Celtic fans love in the world of football and punditry. For some Celtic fans to say his personality is a problem goes completely against what the rest of the world thinks of Strachan. It makes no sense. Neither does being annoyed at him running rings around the press when Celtic fans traditionally hate the press. You just have to compare the way fans look at MON to see there is at least subconcious baise involved. He had the backing to go out in his first 6 months and sign 4 or 5 EPL players and inherited Lambo, Henke, Lubo etc etc. Several points:

1. MON was less successful in the SPL, less succesful in the CL etc but he of course was allowed to lose.

2. MON lost 2 or his last 3 SPL camplains but got nothing like the grumbling WGS got.

3. People grumble about WGS often highlighing unimportant peanuts punts like Du Wei etc. MON didnt sign a single player (other than the Bellamy loan briefly) who was a first pick in his last 4 and a half seasons - fact. His transfer ability and ability to find good players without megabucks was nil and he run the team down. But..he got no criticism while WGS signings got closely scrutinised. MON showed that under the sort of conditions that WGS had to put up with he was hopeless, utterly hopeless...but no criticism.

4. The myth of WGS bad style. People really forget that MON's teams played ugly ugly battering ram football. Other than Lubos sub appearances we had not real creativity and relied on Henke and otherwise on physical football. We had no width, normally started with no real ball players and were * to watch. When WGS came in signed Naka, Artur and Magic and promoted Maloney, he transformed an ugly football side and we suddenly played good passing football.

5. Disasterous results. WGS's are often brought up but MON had his share of giant slaying by minnows in cups etc. Strange how only one managers bad days are ever remembered.

6. Chucking the league away on the last day. WGS lost one and won one when it went to the last day. We never here the end of the one WGS lost even though it was the last week or two of a 4 year run of success. Well why were MON's TWO last day defeats not treated with the same outrage etc. People think we have declined with Rangers taking us to the wire but this happened as often under MON and remember, the Rangers sides that took the league off MON on the last day were the weak ones not the tougher ones he faced in his first two years. Again, totally different treatment of WGS and MON over these last day events.

Nothing an noone will ever persuade me that over the piece (4 years not the last 6 months) WGS was given anything like the appreciation he deserved. Noone will ever persuade me that the contrast in treatment between MON and his more successful succesor is anything short of a clear exposure of many fans mentality which needs a 'Celtic man' and attitude to a face that doesnt fit no matter how well they do. People jump through hoops to explain away WGS's success and continue to cherish the memory of MON. People try to make up plausible excuses for this but it just doesnt add up.

 

the only way is up for Celtic and Tony Mowbray is the man to do it .watching Celtic get worse year in and year out was heartbreaking.In my opinion Celtic have been ruined by strachan ,4 years of decline, Mowbray has had 4 months,he is in every competition Celtic have qualified for,so where is the problem?ok performances have been poor at times but most of the players hes got were either strachan signings or were already there.

so calm down everyone we ain't lost nothing yet,

 

We should put the Strachan saga to bed and leave all our prejudices to one side. Its getting like my dads bigger than your da. A bit pathetic. We should all clap hands and sing Celtic songs.:icon_mrgreen: The future is uncertain, but * were Celtic it always is. Hail Hail even you Gordon!

 

A classic WGS hater.

 

Woooooooooooooo:snack:Your quick!

 

Excellent post.

The snipes like "He didnt sign Nakamura or Boruc" shows how petty people can be and how much biast nonsense some will say just to discredit a successful Celtic manager.

 

I was in Milan and watch our lads put on a display in the last 16 that was fantastic against one of the best teams in Europe.
We lost by a magnificent single goal in extra time. Man U we beat them because Strachan recognised that we were way mismatched and planned a strategy to try and overcome the balnce of power. He succeeded.
He succeeded because he knew what his players could do and he set out his stall accordingly.
Maybe you are happier that we failed to beat an EVEN WORSE Rangers side this season, but Mowbray is the man regardless.

 

I am never happy when we lose. I am never happy period!

 

Strachan IS very genial when he is working as a pundit. Which makes it all the more annoying and puzzling as to why he was such an awkward little * when he was being interviewed as manager of Celtic. And I don't care how funny he is, I hated his habit of telling me that we had played well when I'd just sat and watched a lot of pish. At least Tony Mowbray has the testicles to come out in public and be straight with the fans.

No gunt, I don't imagine I ever will convince you of my position on Strachan. And you will never convince me of yours either. So we're as well just calling it a day and agreeing to differ.

All I can tell you is that the day after losing the league to Rangers I still managed to eventually crack a smile. What made me smile was getting rid of him. I'm glad he's gone and that's never going to change.