Strachan - Come the summer, stick or twist ?

I'm behind GS & the team! Knew this would happen if we lost to the huns. If we sack him because we lose the league, do u really think a self respecting manager will want to come to this CIRCUS, one slip up & your out! Lose the league once in 4 years & the fans will turn! They'll say thanks but no thanks, no security, no backing, no thanks! KEEP STRACH.

 

I'd rather talk about the players. Their the ones that make things happen

Players are the ones that make things happen and when this was quoted, it was said in pride to what his team was achieving and how he wanted everyone to notice that he could not do it without them. That doesn't mean that when it all goes sour the players take full responsibility as well. Part of the managers job is to notice his weaknesses within the team and nip it in the bud as quick as he can. For me it has not been quick enough.

WGS had a quality defender with Celtic and chose to leave him out to dry for the last 2 years where on the other hand, he chose to continue to gives second , third and even froth chances to others who to this day are still crap defenders. Going back to Saturday we had so much possession but didn't look as if we where going to score when going forward yet every time Rangers had a chance which was very little, they did. What does that tell you about the defence.

 

you have a very good point. from the stats you would think that the sensis would be i'm surprised with that decision.

In all honesty , if you where to turn on the TV and listen to any pundit in England and Ireland you would hear that the league in Scotland has been the worst football on show for some time. Even the player of the year debate came down to the best of a bad bunch.
We have not been a club who have chopped and changed there manager every year so that has to go for something.

 

Our problem is not GS, it's lack of money been invested in the first team & the false belief that we're miles ahead of rangers. Couple that with some fans acting like spoilt little bhoys. It's a bitter pill to swallow but face facts & keep the chin up.

 

another reason for the results being up and down is

if celtic are not buying players the players with the jerseys are not under any pressure to keep the jersey.i could list the whole team and not come up with a suitabel back up player,a stop gap yes if the main player is injured but not a suitable replacement

so these guys know they are playing week in week out could be making them lazy ,

 

Hinkel - Wilson
Caldwell or McManus - Loovens or O'Dea
Brown or Crosas - Hartley or Robson
McGeady - Maloney
Naka - Maloney
VOH - Samaras

Thats every position that i would say has suitable replacement, suitable enough for the league we are in anyway.
Tbh we should be able to rotate our squad reguarly and still win this league, imo anyway.
Obviously theres places we need someting new altogether but our squad should have been enough this season.

 

I think the mods need to introduce a new rule and ban any member of this site who start strachan threads, its rediculus how much times this is debated. Give strachan a break, i dont see people starting peter lawell threads because at the end of the day hes the one with the funds and resources to help strachan fs

 

Have everyone else not noticed that the team has been getting worse and worse every sesaon. This season, we have probably the poorest Huns team to rival us ever and yet we struggle to win the league. We should have won the league months ago, but stupid mistakes and inconsistency in our form has led to the current situation. We have ourselves to blame and unless Strachan can win the league I will not be happy. Personally I still think we will win the league. Before the end of the week I expect us to be back on top of the league . Basically if we win the rest of the games we should be good for the title; certainly don't think the huns will pick up 9 points from the last of their 3 games.

Back to Stachan, I personally would like to see someone new brought in to replace him and maybe bring something fresh and rebuild the team in his own way. but who can we get. If they were to sack Strachan and replace him with Levein, then there's no point since Levein ain't going to much better than Strachan.

So should Strachan go? Yes but only if we get in a top manager and back him with the funds to rebuild his own team.

 

this has been a very good discussion mate and as the poll suggests the fans are split down the middle it is a perfectly good topic to be discussing. It hasn't degenerated into a slanging match between those that want him to stay and those that want him to go.

Back to the topic.

I agree with PaulMitchell, the squad we have should be good enough to cope with injuries/suspension to our key players, but for some reason it isn't. Yes, we need to get a different type of player in for certain positions but we should still be able to cope with the SPL with our current squad.

Although I do see TimParks's point that some players know their place is guaranteed so don't have the same desire to perform every week.

 

Stick - the quoted top 3 favourites for the job should Strachan leave are as follows:

Owen Coyle - 4-1
Paul Lambert - 9-2
John Collins - 11-2

That is from the papers today - would any of us honestly be delighted to see a guy who has won 3 in a row (and let's remember this season is FAR from over), replaced by any of the three above? Would any of them make a difference in the current financial climate?

I can't see how, but that's just me.

 

I wouldn't want to see any of them take over Daver, and I'm one of the ones saying he should go, if the choice was one of those 3 or Strachan then I'd stick with Strachan.

 

He's the manager of Celtic mate; banning members who start threads about him (with legitimate grievances, and well-reasoned argument) is ridiculous on a Celtic forum.

Also getting back to the debate - O'Dea started ahead of Naylor, and Maloney (clearly not match fit) started ahead of McGeady......additionally, a failure to change anything until after the 60th minute when McGeady came on and had the best chance of the 2nd half....

All of those are legitimate grievances, and could only be debated after the game...a further reason for the legitimacy of the thread itself.

 

Owen coyle would be a great manager at the club. Theres only one manager i would love at the club but theres no chance in * - david moyes.

 

Rest of the list is as follows:


7-1 Tony Mowbray / Craig Levein
8-1 Neil Lennon
9-1 Darren Ferguson
12-1 Mark McGhee
16-1 Brian McClair.

Apologies by the way Danni - i hit "edit" instead of "quote" with your post there!!

 

I understand were you are coming from and you do make perfect sense but strachan is debated every week regardless of us winning or losing.

If we lose alota people are calling for his head and if we win people are critising his methods of winning. I just think its easy for fans to put the blame on someone and strachan being the manager is taking the raft.

Players themselves dont seem to be critisized along with peter lawell and even the likes of neil lennon. Neil lennon is coaching the players day in day out. The topics just played out now to be perfectly honest

 

There's been 150+ posts in this thread and no one arguing or being abusive, and then you post this garbage ?

So you think there should be a rule punishing people for expressing a point of view you don't agree with ? Or for discussing something you are bored with ?


Come on mate, it's a discussion forum and if you read through the thread plenty of people have made points about the board and Lawell.

 

No worries.

I would take a chance on Levein, he has Dundee Utd playing well, would be able to work within the tight budgets that would remain in place at Celtic no matter who the manager is and he seems to be able to get the best out of a limited squad.

I realise that it would be a risk as he hasn't been tested at a club with the same level of pressure to win but it would be a risk I would be willing to take.

 

paul,

we all have saw borucs blunders

we have all made a meal of mcmanus
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we have all saw no heart from heartly

crossas is not an ever present

sammy and jvoh have been * "most of the time"

THERE ALL STILL PLAYING,

the rest have either had unrest,or injured for months on end,

maloney on saturday,,did nothing,,

 

No need to get edgey. My point isnt garbage, just because you dont agree with what im saying doesnt make it garbage lol

I know its a discussion forum, instead calling this section of the website celtic chat, we should be considering calling it strachan chat lol thats all im saying.

You have to admit tho, discussing the same thing over and over does get pretty boring especially when the same points are discussed each time

 

Excellent thread, Martin. Genuine views expressed in a sensible manner, unlike some previous ones we've had on here. On the subject, while we're a big fish in a small pond in Scotland, in U.K. terms, never mind global ones, we are a minnow as far as finance is concerned. Changing the manager would achieve little.