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The Tennis Thread

Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by Markybhoy, May 16, 2014.

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  1. McGrory1888

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    Do we really need to go back round the full circle?

    You have admitted that you’re not saying the Australian government are wrong to rescind the visa of someone who has lied through his teeth to gain access to the country. So in effect you’re admitting that they’ve made the right decision, whether you like it or not.

    I’ll leave it at that.
     
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  2. murphy88

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    You were the one that asked the question again. I already said they made they probably made the right decision based on their rules.
     
  3. paulie walnuts

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    I don’t disagree with you about Djokovic, I’ve already said there’s no defending what he did when it comes to ignoring isolation rules and lying.
    It just seems to be a bit of a mess from the Aussies. Ever since it became obvious that the Australian public felt aggrieved (quite rightly) that he was allowed to be there they have tried everything to get rid of him, not very successfully.
     
  4. PaulM1888 Gold Member Gold Member

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    The Australian government didn’t fill his paperwork in for him?
     
  5. paulie walnuts

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    I know that mate.
    You think the Aussies have done a good job here, I think it’s a bit of a mess. Not really worth discussing much more.
    Moving away from the politics, I think this gives an interesting insight into the mindset of somebody like Djokovic. I’d have told them to stick their tennis tournament and been on the first plane back to Marbella but it’s obvious that this guy, even when he’s wrong, just won’t accept defeat to anybody over anything.
     
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  6. Callum McGregor The Captain Gold Member

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    Murray semi-final highlights in that video.
     
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    I doubt it will happen but if Djokovic losses his appeal on Sunday not only will he be correctly deported for lying on his visa application they could potential tack on a 3 year ban on attempting to enter Australia again. Doubt that will happen and expect he will just get sent packing but will be interesting.
     
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    I think he comes across as far more entitled, than determined, in this case.

    It’s not a case of him fighting if against some form of injustice, perceived or otherwise. He’s simply lied and assumed that his status would be sufficient to get away with it.
     
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  9. PaulM1888 Gold Member Gold Member

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    I get you have an opposing view mate, I’m just asking what you think they’ve done wrong?

    Djokovic wants has 21st Slam and if he wasn’t tied with Rafa and Fed on 20 currently the force of will he has, publicly, to be at this tournament would be nowhere near as great.
     
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    Taking the first paragraph alone, I totally see where you’re coming from. I don’t think you’re being anti-vax or anything like that, I think your point is that the Aussie government could and should have dealt with this better and I agree with that. To be honest, I think they made a huge mistake in giving Djokovic an exception to travel in the first place and they’ve been backtracking on that ever since. They got to the correct decision eventually but it should have been more decisive.

    Your second paragraph is interesting from a sporting and psychological perspective and very true. I think a lot of what has made Djokovic hugely successful is his upbringing and having to fight for everything. He’s a huge talent and his refusal to admit defeat in games, sets, matches and indeed life is to be admired on a lot of levels. He’s fighting a lost cause here though and, for me, the difference between Novak and Roger/Rafa is that the other two would have walked before now for the good of the sport’s reputation and doing the right thing. There is something noble in there, but he’s handled it all horrifically.

    I think the last couple of weeks will reflect terribly on his legacy to be honest. He could win 21+ but he’ll never be as “great” as Roger or Rafa for the sport of tennis.
     
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    No sympathy, Novak. Get the vaccine ya bawbag!
     
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    Muzza ran out of steam today, that lad he’s playing will be a problem in the Slam - guaranteed to go deep on that surface.
     
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    Aye, you’re probably right about the 21 making him extra determined.
    I honestly don’t know a huge amount about the precise details of what’s gone on here but it just looks messy to me. The fact he’s still there, 2 days before the start of the tournament, when they obviously don’t want him to be, doesn’t suggest a slick or decisive border control process. That’s all I was saying.
    This guy Morrison seems to have similar views on border control to Trump. Not sure that’s something to be admired.
     
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    I agree with everything you’ve said here.
    I’m not anti vax at all. I just don’t have a problem with people choosing not to get it and don’t like the way they’re being discriminated against.
    But yeah, if the Aussies don’t want ‘the unvaccinated’ then don’t let them land there then grandstand about it.
    There’s no doubt he’s let himself down here but I’ve always found Djokovic an interesting character. Not as naturally talented as Federer but still managed to get himself to the top of the game.
    As I say, the past few days are an example of how he just won’t quit until he gets what he wants.
     
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    Is the Beyond Mega * who should really have 15-16 Grand Slam titles still there??
     
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    Being reported that Djokovic did have a legal medical exemption. Alex Hawke will apparently focus on Djokovic being a high profile unvaccinated person and the threat that could have to public health and public order. Scott Morrison had also said that Djokovic’s visa cancellation helps keep the country safe. It’s all about vaccination status this.
     
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    Hope the Mega Selfish * cannot play any Grand Slam Event this season with his Horrible Selfish Attitude!