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You doing your usual of not actually reading the content of the full post and just being a * for the sake of it?

The most boring * on the internet.

 

O’Riley was project signing that worked out. Cost only 1-5 million.
Spending 10 million doesn’t guarantee better player.
We need find right player no matter how much he costs.

 

Spending 2-3mill on a player doesn't always work out either.

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Nobody is saying * 5m plus for the sake of it though. If quality is available cheap fine but let's be honest, most of the time it doesn't. I feel like Hatate, Maeda, GG, Juranovic and O'Riley happening in the same season gives the impression it's a good system. But the last 4 windows nobody under 3m has really worked out. Iwata has been passable.

 

I don't even think we need to bring in 3 or 4 5m to 6m players each season, 1 or 2 would be a start.

This season are biggest signing was about 4m (who was absolute dog *). Imagine if instead of buying Palma, Tilio, Kuhn and Yang for 10.9m combined we'd spent £6-7m on someone with some decent experience plus Kuhn or Palma. I tell you if be really happy. At CB instead of signing 2 donkeys for 7.3m who had about 100 pro appearances between them. We spent £6 or 7m on a 25 year old like Salter-Clarke and then just kept Scales (who was planned to be sold). Again id have been Happy as Larry.

If we'd spent like that, 3 players £17m which would have improved us. 2 more signings using an additional £3m or loan to buy.

 

Bingo.

And why I say the 5m 4-5 players, I don't even expect that every season, every second, maybe third if not needed, just to keep the calibre at the club high and able to take scalps in Europe.

You're 100% though regards the amount wasted on numerous players.
I'm not at all against the project signings, just not every player needs to be.
As you say, had we signed a 7m winger plus one of Palma or Kuhn last summer, things would have been good.

Maeda, Forrest, the 7m winger and Palma - then allowing the youth some game time.

Instead we have an abundance of deadwood all vying for the same game time.

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I think we need a gameplan of what were looking for

We should be looking at talent rather than cost and looking to get some of the young scottish talent signed up

Miller and Watson are the names right now but we should be looking and enquiring

Id also like us to move up in what we pay for a player currently we are in the 3-6million bracker id like to see us move up to 7-10million even if it was one player

 

But this is also an issue in itself.

The modern transfer market DICTATES that most players' value is overstated, and in many cases, inflated by multiple interests.

Countless times over the past decade we've been linked with "the right player". Names that supporters were rightly excited to be linked with.

It was the intransigence of Lawell and co, their bullish and arrogant negotiation style, and the refusal to raise offers, or even increase the wage cap by 5k or so to facilitate these moves, that has seen them collapse.

This absolute obsession with risk mitigation is crippling us.

We're now a club that steadfast refuses to pay over the 5m mark for a player unless he's been subject to the scrutiny of a season long loan; CCV, Eddy, Jota.
And when these loans aren't available, we fall back into the 2-3m market.

I agree that 10m doesn't guarantee you a good player.
But but the odds of success increase dramatically when you switch from the 2-3m punt market, to the 5-8m potential market.

The attitude of Desmond and Lawell is simply "* it, if he doesn't work out, it was only a couple of million". But those millions add up. And they have. The sheer millions we've spunked away on project signings and punts is scandalous.

We simply cannot afford to keep shopping in the bargain bucket for talent. It's just not feasible for the product on the park.

 

Can see us going for the loan-to-buy market again. I am fine with it as we'd have been saddled with even more * if we didn't but ultimately we are going to have to be 'braver' with a few that aren't loan-to-buy. We have the money to be braver.

 

I think the LTB is where clubs should be looking. In general it's a win win, they don't do well you don't buy them and if they do you have first dibs.

Some of these big clubs have tones of players stashed away, who are talented but don't get a shot or at most get a loan to the Championship but they often can't afford the transfer fee.

 

This...I'd even say we should be in the £7M - £10M market for the right first team players.
3 or 4 of those and we dramatically change the quality of first team.
And we CAN afford it and keep a wee stash on side.

 

If only we had the right scouting network watching these boys and assessing them for some time, that when it comes to pulling the trigger it’s less of a risk.

Spending that kinda money on boys that tick the boxes shouldn’t be a problem but the problem seems to be our scouting and identifying these players. Pretty * really, especially when ye read some posters on here that have a massive in depth knowledge of players all over Europe and beyond lol

 

Rodgers said January was more of an issue with clubs not wanting to sell rather than players not wanting to come.

This gave me some hope we have players lined up to come in.

Come oan to * board make me look a * and do something.

 

I think we'll have a decent summer. We need to.

Hart and O'Riley, if he goes, will be massive to replace. A GK, left back, centre half, centre mid, a winger or two and another striker. That's probably the minimum required.

 

That's a definite positive. Would possibly mean some business done early on.

 

This is an old excuse, but repackaged. "Hard to get good players in January". Ange proved it to be baseless.

 

Or did he just hit a different market? I dont disagree it sounds like perceived wisdom but he also shopped elsewhere.

 

He did hit a different market and got excellent players. Heck, he even got O'Riley from England. Granted, Ange had a wide authority in controlling transfers, because Peter Lawwell wasn't there to bother him for the first year or so.

 

These £1 - £3m signings are dangerous for us and can eat into our budget and profits if they don't work out. And often in recent seasons they haven't. We need to identify players in our own league where we know can play domestically and have ability to progress and bring through more younger players and complement it with genuine hit the ground running quality such as we have done with CCV, Jota, Odsonne etc.

 

He had a wide authority 'cause we literally had no structure. We still don't.