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The 2016 Scottish Elections Thread

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  1. Markybhoy

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    I see Kezia Dugdale has decided to come out in the middle of an election campaign. :87: Cynical as *.
     
  2. Markybhoy

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    What do you think of him as a leader though?
     
  3. Tim-Time 1888 Always look on the bright side of Life Gold Member

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    Harsh but difficult to disagree. People need to realise that an Independent Scotland will not be able to hand out 'free stuff' nor will everything be hunky dory immediately either.
    While the story was obviously depressing its very difficult to see how any government can be held accountable for the actions of some individuals. In fact he is an example of 'bettering yourself' as he is obviously articulate and can express himself , despite the horrendous upbringing he has had.
     
  4. Gift From God

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    He is not the strongest character, that I am aware, but whenever I have watched any of the debates on the leaders he seems the most genuine out of them all. He seems the most civilised and has done his best to make the public aware of the snp's 15bn deficit.
     
  5. Tim-Time 1888 Always look on the bright side of Life Gold Member

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    +1. Not make much difference really, both Sturgeon and Davidson are both able to rip her, at will, in a debate.
     
  6. Intellectually Absurd Gold Member Gold Member

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    Without giving any suggestions as to how it will be reduced. None of them really have (opposition I mean). They've all really written their manifesto's as opposition hopefuls rather than potential government.

    Listening to Ruth Davidson talk about being a 'strong opposition, fighting for unionists' is embarrassing and even her supporters have called her out on it.

    I don't hear bumbling Willie say anything really, no costed policies, no ideas - just SNP bad.
     
  7. Markybhoy

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    Q&A on BBC2 just now. David Coburn is a fud.
     
  8. Markybhoy

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    I don't doubt that he's genuine but he doesn't come across as a strong leader at all. I wouldn't fancy having him going abroad representing Scotland as our First Minister.

    Also, the deficit is £10bn is it not?
     
  9. muffitO'tea

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    Is coming out going to change anything for her and her party? I don't think so.
    I don't really see her sexuality as being a major issue so i don't really know why she had to make it public either way.
     
  10. Markybhoy

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    David Coburn gets asked what part of the budget UKIP would cut in order to reduce the deficit. His first two suggestions...........

    1. Scrap the legal guardian bill. I agree in principle but that's not going to save a huge amount of money.
    2. Cut the salaries of 'fat cats in Glasgow City Council who earn over £100,000 a year'. Which apparently accounts for less than 35 people. Well that'll save a fortune won't it. :52:

    Revolutionary stuff.
     
  11. Gift From God

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    May I add locally both lib dem and labour have done far more for me than the snp candidate.
     
  12. Dáibhí

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    We draw the line when the facts show that the amount of taxpayer money being spent doesn't correlate with the amount of money such skills are generating in the economy.

    Look, in an ideal world everyone would be able to go to University and spend another four years of their lives enjoying school rather than working in Tesco or mixing cement, but this isn't an ideal world.

    Having to pay £1,500 per year for that degree in theatre culture or Gaelic will lessen the burden on the taxpayer, and also instil a bit of responsibility in those taking the course.
     
  13. Momo Sylla

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  14. Intellectually Absurd Gold Member Gold Member

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    What I find hilarious is all the house moving of party leaders in order to actually get elected.

    Ruth Davidson away to a Conservative Edinburgh area because she was a shoe in to lose her seat in Glasgow. Half of the leaders are only going to get in on the list vote. :smiley-laughing002:
     
  15. strike twice

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    It annoys me that Scottish political parties try to promote leaders as the thing/reason to vote for . The SNP were guilty in the past " Alex Salmond for First Minister " on the ballot paper , and this time the Conservatives are punting Ruth Davidson for a strong opposition . In my opinion it should be outlawed . How can you vote for these candidates if they aren't standing in your constituency or list area . Total bollocks , undemocratic and confusing . To say nothing of this practice muddying the waters by putting the emphasis on personalities rather than policies .
     
  16. TheHolyGoalie

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    I don't see anything wrong with it tbh. You don't just vote for a local candidate or party, by extension you also vote for who you want to be First Minister.
     
  17. Markybhoy

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    Aye. Liebour are putting their 'big hitters' on the list because they fully expect to get wiped out in the constituency votes. Changed days.
     
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    Cant wait to see those labour * in the dole queue getting sanctioned.
     
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    Getting really fed up with everyone "coming out" as if it means anything. I just don't care, I really, really, do not care. Strangely it seems to make bigger news than policy decisions, as if being gay is going to be some Miracle Grow for the economy.

    [FONT=&quot] Another comrade in the post referendum intellectual primordial swamp is this online freak show, Wings Over Scotland. Ever the politically sensitive I see they have tastefully called their latest fundraiser ‘The Great Leap Forward’, after a failed Soviet economic plan that resulted in the forced collectivization of the entire Soviet peasantry, an ideological measure that concluded in the death of millions of Ukrainians, Kazakhs and Moldavians. Call me old fashioned, but naming your fundraiser after a holocaust is unwise, if not completely tasteless and * moronic. Perhaps they are being ironic and self-reverential; should that be the case I bow to their candid spirit, somehow I doubt it. Just to clarify, the ‘People’s Glorious Fundraiser’ has raised £87,000 and its website claims to have over 300,000 unique visitors in March. People really need to get their values in order, shocking that people support these Stalinist apologists. [/FONT][FONT=&quot]

    Though not as pathetic as Wings Over Scotland, one of the more peculiar manifestations of this culture is the crypto commie, hippie chain- gang, RISE. Disillusioned with the SNP, these anti-capitalists, eco-socialist, anti-globalisation and anti-austerity Poundshop Corbynistas are united against the tyranny of Westminster. No doubt gaining the profound feeling of self-righteousness that comes with moral outrage. All part of the orchestra of bilious anti-Tory invective, the new Scottish nationalism. [/FONT]
     
  20. TheHolyGoalie

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    That's both UKIP and the Greens released their manifestos now. I can see both parties getting a fair number of seats.