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Squad - Who Stays? Who Goes?

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  1. Mr Diggler

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    A new manager can galvanize some players that many have lost hope in. I think 5 top signings sorts out this team. A goalkeeper, a centre back, right back; left winger and a striker. We will lose Ajer, Edouard and Christie and maybe one or two others worth a few quid. At least £40 million should be there to spend. £25 million from player sales and £15 million from the club. If as rumoured Steve Cook and Josh King followed Eddie Howe up here that would be a good start. Then we should have plenty of money to really focus on 3-4 top class signings plus a few squad men and a youngster or two. With the right signings we will be back with a bang next year and actually have a system and a plan on the pitch. McGregor and Forrest will be key men going forward. McGregor in particular has so much more potential than he has shown this season but that to me is down to poor leadership in the dugout. The players lack direction..
     
  2. green-yin

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    New gk (begovic?) / barkas / hazard
    New rb / oconner backup
    New cbx2 / jullien / welsh backup
    New lb / taylor backup

    New def mid (shaw?) /soro / mcgregor / turnbull / new box to box cm / connell

    Forrest / new rw
    New lw / johnston backup

    Ajeti / new target man striker / new all rounder striker.

    By my thinking we need 10 new players which would give us atleast 2 players for each position in a 4 3 3.

    Sell eddie ajer ntcham boli hendry shved bayo christie bain and or barkas.
     
  3. mayo

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    GK
    New GK

    Bain
    Hazard

    RB
    New RB

    O'Connor

    CB
    2 New CBs

    Julien
    Welsh

    LB
    New LB

    Hjelde

    CDM
    Soro
    Shaw

    CM
    New CM
    McGregor
    Whoever is best between Robertson, Henderson, O'Connell

    CAM
    Turnbull
    Rogic

    RM
    Forrest
    Whoever is better between Dembele and Shved

    LM
    New LM

    Johnston

    ST
    2 New STs

    Griffiths
    Bayo

    I wouldn't mind a complete clear out but that won't happen. Ones I haven't included as I think they'll be away but I'd like to stay is Ajer and Eddy. Trusting in the youth a lot here. As Lennon never gave them a chance don't know what they are like, surely a couple be fine for having in the team. Maybe one or two more signings instead of youth players to finish off the squad,
     
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  4. World Champion

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    If possible keep Edouard, Elyounoussi, Forrest, Ajer, Julien, McGregor, Turnbull, Soro, Dembele and Griffiths. Get rid of the rest of the diddies.
     
  5. alex_bhoy

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    Anyone thinking we're going to spend more than £20million even after Eddy & Ajer are sold need their heads checked. I'd move McGregor further forward as you can't have a deep lying midfielder who's as poor a tackler as he is. No more Loans either unless it's to cover an injury emergency. Need to make use of the younger players and find 4 new starters at around £4/5 million each.


    GK

    Barkas (Call me crazy but still think he's salvageable, confidence should pick up with some better defenders)
    Bain
    Hazard

    RB
    New RB

    O'Connor

    CB
    2 New CBs
    (Need to be physically dominant as neither of the two below are, one starter + one younger player)
    Julien
    Welsh

    LB
    New LB

    Taylor

    CDM
    Soro
    Shaw

    CM
    New CM (at a stretch Christie?)
    Robertson/O'Connell

    CAM
    Turnbull
    Rogic

    RM
    Forrest
    Dembele

    LM
    McGregor
    Johnston

    ST
    New ST

    Ajeti
    Griffiths
    Bayo
     
  6. belfastcelt Gold Member Gold Member

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    Howe could have got a decent job in England. Hes not stupid, and knows we will lose our best players, and will require at least half a dozen first team players and potentially up to another half a dozen squad players. He is not accepting that role if we arent planning on putting at least 30m on the table
     
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  7. alex_bhoy

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    Believe me I hope you're right, just don't trust our board to put their hands in their pockets in the current climate.
     
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  8. Can'tbehooped

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    I have every faith that the board will put their hands in their pockets, absolutely no concerns whatsoever.


    It's bringing them back out with money in them that concerns me
     
  9. ApartPidgeon

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    I think we could see a rebirth from Ntcham under a new manager
     
  10. Mr. Slippyfist Gold Member Gold Member

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    Aye, at a new club...
     
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  11. david100825

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    We will see plenty come and go this summer but it is also realistic that our starting front 6 will be as below allowing for some level of continuity.

    New
    New Julien New New
    McGregor Soro
    Turnbull
    Forrest Johnston
    Ajeti

    Things we should try and do for our starting eleven.

    - Offer Ajer 1-year extension and £50k p/w. Continuity at centre back with him and a fit Julien will massively help the team and a new coach. He can go the following summer.
    - Sign David Marshall. He's better than anything we have.
    - Sign two attacking full-backs. We have money from Frimpong and inevitable Boli sale. We really need to get these right.
     
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  12. ApartPidgeon

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    Depends on who the manager wants to bring in.

    If its Howe we could see a furry of english championship players on a a free as its a market he knows

    Think we will see Cook and could see him being handed the armband
     
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  13. belfastcelt Gold Member Gold Member

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    In most seasons gone by, we have around 15 players that play 30+ games and potentially another 8 that will play 10 games plus

    In that first group 30+
    Mcgregor
    Forrest
    Turnbull

    Second group 10+
    Barkas
    Taylor
    Welsh
    Jullien (injury puts him here)
    Soro
    Rogic
    Ajeti

    Potential to join group 2
    Hazard
    Hjelde
    Bitton
    Montgomery
    Connell
    Oconnor
    Henderson
    Johnson
    Robertson

    Thats assuming eddie, christie, Ajer, ntcham go.

    If two from the second group step up we would need 3 from the bottom group to step up to play 10 games plus and this is also based on no big injurys to the bigger players.

    It would them mean we would need 10 players brought in to play 30+ games.

    To put that into context, if Ang is announced next week, its like 1 player every week from then to the end of the window expected to get 30 games a season with us next season

    A goal keeper
    Right back
    Centre half x2
    Left back
    Def midfielder
    Box to box midfielder
    Left winger
    Striker x2

    That will cost potentially 35m to do that to a standard we will require, im sure there will be the odd loan in there.

    Eddie 16m
    Ajer 8m
    Christie 3m
    Hendry 2m
    M.Dembele 3m
    Paddy pole 3m

    Theres possibly a chance to raise the 35m But will it all be put back into the squad??

    Alot of big earners out the door so there will a decent budget for wages
     
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  14. Foley1888

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    Good analysis here and shows the size of job we have on our hands.

    I think we will bring in a bit more than £35m if including the Klimala, Frimpong and Elhamed sales which are already worth about £12.5m plus if Hendry was sold for £1.75m and depending if Bitton and Rogic stay. Also Shved, Bayo and Bolingoli will likely move on.

    I’m terms of what we need in I would agree with you and think it sadly is the bare minimum we need unless a Hjelde, OConnor, Connell or Dembele really step it up next season.

    To be successful in that approach we will have to be able to sign a few out of contract players so that 4 or 5 can be bought for decent money as I can’t see us spending everything we bring in either.
     
  15. Seán Mac D Gold Member Gold Member

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    Quicker listing who I'd keep in the squad

    GKs: Hazard (only as he's young & cheap, 3rd choice)
    Full backs: None
    CBs: Julien, Welsh
    CMs: Turnbull, Soro, McGregor, Henderson, Robertson, Connell
    Wingers: Forrest, Johnston (but this is make or break now)
    Strikers: Ajeti

    Eddie, Ajer, Christie excluded as they'll definitely be punted.

    That's 12 out of the whole squad and that's including Robertson & Connell who might go out on loan again.

    Huge work. Genuinely need 15-18 players incoming if that's the case.
     
  16. david100825

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    We should give Barkas another year but we need a good competitor for it like David Marshall.

    A centre-back and two full-backs (with right-back first priority of the two) are also high priority.

    Arguably our front 6 may remain which will give some level of continuity.

    Barkas
    New New Julien New
    Soro McGregor
    Turnbull
    Forrest Johnston
    Ajeti


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  17. Wee Baldy

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    Only one I'd disagree with there is Ajeti. I just don't rate him at all. We need a big strong striker like Hartson or Sutton with someone playing of him (maybe another gem like Larsson just waiting to be discovered). Anyhow, It's going to be a gigantean task for the new man and one I hope the board will enable him to do with the necessary financial backing
     
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    I actually quite like Ajeti think he's a good player who played in a poorly coached side last season, with that said if we are to play 4-2-3-1 which Ange likes and it's likely to be a high pressing style of play i'm just not sure he will fit in as he doesn't strike me as someone who will press with the real intensity needed when leading the press from the front and if he * up then the press * up really. Think we will see a mobile forward come in.
     
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    Decent money needs spent on a GK, RB, LB, CB, LW and ST

    Would be happy for a couple of loans in place for another CB and a RW.

    We can also surely find a decent second striker on a free.
     
  20. Mr Hoopy

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    People talking about us buying 10 players and spending £30 million need to get real as it ain't gonna happen.

    We will see Ajer, Eddie and Christie leave plus maybe Barkas and Griff. I reckon we will get the same amount of players back in and we will see more youths come through.