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Should pupils be forced to stay on until they are 18.

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  1. Drakhan Nac Mac Feegle Gold Member

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    Reason i ask is because the wasteminster government are bringing in compulsory national Service for 18-24 year olds.

    So this could be a feasable way of doing things

    Pupil attends High School until 16 and leaves after qualifying for University or has a job to go to.
    If pupil doesn't qualify for university at age 16 and has no job to go to then they MUST stay on until 18 then either qualify for university, have a guaranteed job waiting for them or do compulsory national service (No state benefits available to them)
     
  2. honda

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    Why university, i done both uni and college and i learned ten times more at college imo. p.s. im glad am over 24 so do what they like :56:
     
  3. Lennon2011

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    Is it not 16-26 years for compulsory national service?
     
  4. Doire_Bhoy

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    For *'s s... the London Government is not "bringing in compulsory national service for 18-24 year olds". One MP's tabled a bill proposing it. It'll more than likely be struck down and it certainly isn't Government policy or "being brought in".

    Really, all you have to do is do a wee check on Google.
     
  5. wulliebad

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    Stay in schools till 18 and then your old enough to get dragged into the army to die for the rich in london.
     
  6. wulliebad

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    Don't be so sure,its this sort of sneaky low key * that gets passed.

    I don't remember the scottish waters being moved debate.

    But i do hope i am wrong.
     
  7. Doire_Bhoy

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    I will bet you money here and now that compulsory national service will not be introduced for 18-24 year olds in Britain in this parliament. PM me I'll organise a PayPal to you and you to me.

    As someone else mentioned, it's a Tory MP with too much time on his hands, being an attention-seeking *.

    That's different though. That required a cartographical sleight of hand - one that was so slight that we didn't notice it until 2014!

    National service would call up hundreds of thousands of working class 18-24 year olds. This isn't 1950. It's unworkable, it's a Tory getting a bit of airplay for himself, and it certainly won't become law - of that I am so sure I will bet money on it.
     
  8. Kiko 7

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    Who are they to tell someone what they have to do?

    :smiley-laughing002:
    See how it goes down in Glasgow.
     
  9. ThisIsGhod

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    Stupid idea, more kids should be going to college than Uni.
     
  10. Cena Never Give Up Gold Member

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    They can shove it up there hole if they try it
     
  11. Doire_Bhoy

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    Relax, it's not going to happen.
     
  12. Drakhan Nac Mac Feegle Gold Member

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    It's already PASSED it's first reading in the Commons and is at it's 2nd reading.
    One more and it's passed into law.
     
  13. Doire_Bhoy

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    It won't happen. Bills fall at various readings all the time.

    And any bill needs to go through readings of the Horse of Lords and then needs Royal Assent become law.

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  14. Drakhan Nac Mac Feegle Gold Member

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    Just checked ths link on it.

    http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2013-14/nationalservice.html

    It states it didnt get through in time so is not supposed to be making any further progress but a Tory MP has started it again so not sure if it starts at the beginning or were it left off.

    National Service Bill 2013-14

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    House Bill Date [​IMG] Bill 32 2013-2014, as introduced | PDF version, 78KB 05.09.2013
    Latest news on the National Service Bill 2013-14

    The Bill failed to complete its passage through Parliament before the end of the session. This means the Bill will make no further progress. Summary of the National Service Bill 2013-14

    A Bill to provide a system of national service for young persons; and for connected purposes.
     
  15. Sean Daleer 8 and 3 ¹/³rds Gold Member

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    So basically the wee brats better be brainy or they will be getting used as cannon fodder?

    I can't see a human rights court going to town on that, at all. :smiley-laughing002:
     
  16. Cena Never Give Up Gold Member

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    :56:
     
  17. Drakhan Nac Mac Feegle Gold Member

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    I agree but wasn't there recently some Tory MPs demanding the abandonment of the Human Rights Act because of the abuse of the system by criminals.
    If that happens then ...
     
  18. Senna s1979

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    We're paying off 80,000 soldiers soon so i can hardly see us being able to afford 500,000 new ones if this is passed.

    Load of *.
     
  19. Drakhan Nac Mac Feegle Gold Member

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    As someone else posted, they would be used as cannon fodder.
    Dead soldiers cost nothing :86:
     
  20. callumrae1967

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    Naecunt would do it anyway:smiley-laughing002: