Scottish & Irish girl arrested in Peru for cocaine smuggling.

I dont know they wouldnt let me have a look.

 

Are all laws equal? Are all laws equally moral? Are laws and morals the same thing?

It is illegal to sell cocaine. Selling weapons is a huge legal industry carried out at the highest levels of government.

Seems to me you can sympathise with people arrested under stupid and arbitrary laws without automatically supporting mugging and murdering, no?

There's also the element of human sympathy because they are in a wretched situation, their futures will not be what they might have been, and their families will be suffering enormously.

 

What, you honestly think that street drugs are the same purity as they are when they leave their country of origin? :smiley-laughing002:

I wish.

Soap power? No that would be stupid and ridiculous. Glucose and Manitol are often used as cutting agents. Manitol gets used to add to drugs to make pills in pharmaceutical factories but plenty of it gets used in street level drugs.

 

Assuming they are guilty.
They have not shown any Morals by smuggling drugs. The Law is different in all countries , however who is not aware that the penalties are severe ?
I do not think that they are "stupid laws" Human Sympathy ? Did they show that in attempting to smuggle drugs ? No they never, so I have no sympathy for them at all. I feel sorrow for the parents but then again these (if guilty) had no thought's to how the parents etc would feel so why should I, really ?

 

3 years would be sufficent, weather that in is Peru or the UK dosent really matter to me.

They changed their story already, they first said they didnt know their was drugs in their bags, and now they are claiming they where forced at gun-point from Ibiza, so they did know.
First sign of guility people, changing their story.

 

Or people that are scared they'll get shot in the head if they grass

 

Personally the sentence should be whatever is normal in the country who has jurisdiction.
Also I don't see why they should get to serve time in Irish or Uk prison's, at the tax payers expense either.

 

From what has been released to the media along with the fact they were in Peru would lead me to suspect they are guilty. However I am always skeptical on information released by people in authority. I also wonder why the need to release to the media videos of the suspects. I have not watched these videos but have been told they do not reflect well on these girls.

 

So you do not have your own opinion on crime and punishment. Do you also blindly agree that a murderer in Texas deserves the death penalty while in Maine he does not.

 

Did they look like people who where fearful of their families lifes in the video? Far from it.

Of course be skeptical, but not much adds up that these girls where either unwittinly in Peru and didnt know what they where at or forced to do it.

 

He may well have his own view, but like all of us, his view counts for * on this matter as we dont make the decisions. A law and penalty was in place before those girls commited the crime and it has not since changed so the crime should be punished as the law of the country states it should be. That way the girls are getting what was to be expected if they where caught in lin ewith how they Country they broke the law in feels it should be punished.

Amending curret laws/penaltys is another debate altogether.

 

Pardon me ? I fail to see the "leap" you have assumed with the above statement.
Depending on the circumstances of a "murder" then the death penalty may well be deserved, however being "blind" on the details of the murder, I can only say, may deserve the death penalty.
Obviously as a tax payer you would be happy to have them in a Irish or Uk prison then ?

 

As an Irish tax payer I would prefer them in a British prison.

As a citizen of Ireland in no position of power I have no say in these girls punishment. I was just giving my opinion on a punishment to fit their crimes. The reason I decided to give my opinion and ask others theirs was to quantify peoples feelings of sympathy. I can not express sympathy or justification until I know what punishment these girls receive.

The leap I made for the death penalty issue was that you seemed unable to give your opinion on a punishment that you felt was justified. Rather you posted " Personally the sentence should be whatever is normal in the country who has jurisdiction". So I took this and applied it to differing punishments for the same crime in the USA.

 

What's that ment to mean? That is Mellissa Reid

 

:smiley-laughing002: Aye , well as a Uk tax payer I would prefer them in some one elses prison and as they (appear) to have been caught in Peru that will do for me In my opinion, I did give my opinion, on what was justified :smiley-laughing002: Just like if they got caught doing it in Sweden or Spain or the Uk etc

 

Does this include Malaysia, Taiwan, Singapore etc.

 

If they are convicted, rightfully they should serve their sentances in their own country or at least a English speaking country.

 

Soooooo was giving this some thought today and I think it comes down to 2 scenarios.


1. These mad * are savages and thought they would be gangsta as * and try and smuggle over a 1million pounds worth of gear and got caught.

2. They were coerced into having a trip to Peru then were told to take the gear or your families will die.

Now regarding number 2, a likely story would be that some rich guy befriended them and offered them an all expenses trip to Peru and all the coke you can sniff. I mean some young women are easily lead by an older guy flashing the cash.

So I think they maybe have went to Peru willingly with no idea about bringing back coke then when they were in Peru that's when they got the ultimatum.

Both scenarios seem plausible but number 2 happens all too often imo in regards to unwilling drug mules.

However they do deserved to get punished as there is always away out (may not seem like it at the time) but 25 years is * ridiculous, they did not kill anyone or cause anyone severe harm.

And if anyone really thinks they should do the 25 years in prison I sincerely hope one of your family members ends up in a similar situation.

 

An all expenses paid two day trip to Peru! I'm sold

They're guilty as *.
First they didn't know what was in the bags and now they knew all along and were forced at gunpoint. aye right.
Too many twists they've * up their story from the start.

Idiots