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Neil Lennon

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by romeo9535, Apr 17, 2016.

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  1. Peej Gold Member Gold Member

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    Guy will forever go down as a Celtic Legend, captain, manager, started and ended the 9 in a row run, potential of the ten. Guys ingrained in to Celtic as much as Celtic is ingrained to Neil lennon.


    That doesn't excuse him from absolutely abysmal decisions, * formations, * poor team selections and an inability to make a sub before the 78th minute in some games.

    Guys a legend, but he has his faults.





    However, he did not cause the Covid-19 pandemic.
     
  2. Peej Gold Member Gold Member

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    I think every man and his dug has gave Lennon every bit of due credit as well. It's not a bad thing to not have wanted him to return full time as manager, but last season I think everyone agreed and praised him for his management after the new year, rightly so. Again though, that does not excuse him from criticism when he again * it up (not the first, likely wont be the last).

    I've yet to see any personal insults lobbed at him from Celtic fans as well, some seem to think any negative towards him as a manager is a personal attack on the lad. It is not.
    We can be critical of the man as a manager!
     
  3. freitassen

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    That is exactly what * me off. This self congratulatory tone everytime we beat a tin pot barely professional SPFL team that altogether costs less than Ntcham.
     
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  4. Albian Ajeti Here we go, 10 in a row Gold Member

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    * forbid a manager says we had a good performance after a win ffs. :55:
     
  5. Peej Gold Member Gold Member

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    But it wasn't a good performance. The first half was dreadful, same as the midweek game to a T.
    Second half once the changes finally got made, it got better, but it wasn't a good performance.
     
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  6. Albian Ajeti Here we go, 10 in a row Gold Member

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    We had goals in each half, were dominant on the ball, didn't make many mistakes and aye, the first half wasn't pretty but he's entitled to say it was 'good' after a 3-0 win. Stupid thing for folk to claim they're * off about.

    All three were good goals too, with some nice play in the build up. So I'd agree with the manager on this occasion.
     
  7. Bonobhoy

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    Same ones that ousted Strachan back in the day, probably.

    Lenny deserved criticism but like many the abuse he got was a disgrace.
     
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  8. Sean Daleer The Answer my Friend is Blowing in the Wind Gold Member

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    Know what * me off? Spoiled brats that know nothing but domestic success at this club to the point where it doesn't even matter to them anymore.
     
  9. murphy88

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    The performance against Motherwell was good, after the team that should have started the game were brought on. Tell you what though, I expected more of a reaction first half after the embarrassing exit in Europe.
     
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    Agree with most of this. But winning the League Cup and Scottish Cup doesn’t outweigh getting papped out of the Champions League two year on the trot by Romanians and Hungarians.

    On both occasions the managers team selection and tactics were the primary reason we lost, throwing away multi millions in revenue each time.
     
  11. Seán Mac D Gold Member Gold Member

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    For me our priorities are always:

    1. League
    2. Champions League qualification
    3. Scottish Cup
    4. League Cup
    5. Europa Group qualification, if we've dropped down

    I never claimed that 3 or 4 outweighed failing to do 2; simply that some people struggle to balance their judgement.

    Lennon has to cop the lion's share of blame for the Ferencvaros defeat, the team selections were all wrong and the delay to change it when the game was at our mercy was mind-blowing but some people have reacted hysterically.

    People talk about our run to the UEFA Cup Final in 2003 but rarely remember that we got dumped out of the Champions League qualifiers by Basel, at a time that we had the 5th highest wage budget in the UK. At 3-1 up from the first leg, MoN went with an unfamiliar 4-4-2 over in Switzerland and we ended up getting done.

    Lennon needs to learn and improve from our failures and drop the stubbornness at times but it isn't as bad as some are making out.

    If he does turn it around again and we bounce back to domestic and Europa success then many of the dissenting voices will disappear again and be absent in their praise....but will be back at the next bad result with the usual patter.
     
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    Would * adore us winning every game 3-0 tbh.
     
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    Imagine if there was Twitter back then :90:
     
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  14. JC Anton Here we go... Gold Member

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    Still, can't shake off the CL failure and it shouldnt be forgotten no matter what happens this season, in amongst the unparalleled celebrations that will surely come.

    For me it's learning from his mistakes, two CL qualifications, plus Copenhagen shows a tactically naivety that is just unacceptable.. And zero learning from mistakes. The buck stops with Lenny and his coaching staff, if JK is earmarked as potential successor, then be prepared for more CL disappointment and mediocrity.

    I love Lenny, I really do but for me he's never going to take us to the next level as a team.

    It comes from the overall ambition of the club, the board view domestic dominance as the main priority and CL football as a bonus and isn't budgeted for. That's the difference we as fans covet CL football, domestic cups are great but we want to be a CL regular, we're miles away from that under Lenny.

    Getting the 10 will be special, with Lenny leading us making it even more. I'm not disputing that and the season can still be a great one.

    It's a Catch 22, in some ways albeit a good one.

    It just feels after the 10 we need a whole new direction as a club.. Which will be difficult as we've just secured the 10...

    I'll back him but his tenure is kinda panning out exactly as expected, in some ways.
     
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    When we lose eddy, Ajer, ntcham and Christie this window I’m not so sure the 10 is such a certainty. So lennys actual management ability will be tested unlike any other season
     
  16. JC Anton Here we go... Gold Member

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    We won't lose them... All.
     
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    If teams come in and pay the money I don’t see why we won’t sell them. Ajer and Christie are definitely off, and eddys contract will be a worry financially for what we can get for him. And then ntcham has wanted away since last year. Genuinely think we could see them all gone with maybe eddy last for big money last minute.
     
  18. JC Anton Here we go... Gold Member

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    No chance mate.
     
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    Where you seeing Christie & Ajer definitely off?
     
  20. Seán Mac D Gold Member Gold Member

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    If they all go then we're talking about £65m minimum coming into the club...our movement in the market is slow but we would have to bring in quality to replace them.

    Like @JC Anton I cannot see all 4 being sold in the next month, doing so would be a huge risk.

    Eddie is our most productive player and Christie is our 2nd most. Punt them and you have 50 goals and 30+ assists to replace.
     
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