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Neil Lennon

Discussion in 'Ex Players' started by romeo9535, Apr 17, 2016.

Discuss Neil Lennon in the Ex Players area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. The Dublin Celt Gold Member Gold Member

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    I think that it might violate laws concerning the free movement of workers, since workers would be tied to a more or less interminable contract.
     
  2. ede

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    I’d take Deila back and I am not even a big fan of his reign. But at least he did try to change the team in some good ways such as the diet and fitness side. Remember when he came in and was shocked when he saw the players eating chips, ketchup, drinking soda. Yes that was all Neil F****** Lennon and I am guessing the current players also eat what they want. They have regresssed from professional sports athletes to amateurs under Lennon.
     
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    Given that our finances have been decimated by Covid we'll have to sell off a number of players to offset the huge losses.

    On top of that we have to hope any replacements, who will be in the low 1-3m category, will be immediately quality additions to make up for the scarcity of quality already in a depleted squad. You're essentially hoping a 2m striker will be as good as Edouard or a 3m defender will be as good as Ajer.

    Then we have to hope we appoint the right manager and coaching set-up, along with the right DOF, scouting network and sport science/analytical department.

    And we have to hope this is all done smoothly and speedily - but with appropriate thought given to quality - so we can challenge immediately for a CL spot against teams like Ajax.

    Aye, sounds great in theory.

    What's more likely though?

    We appoint someone in the mould of Steve Clarke or Malky McKay, sign * like Bangura to replace Edouard, fail in the qualifiers, probably barely scraping into the EL.

    Meanwhile the Huns will swat aside * like Ferencvaros or Malmo to make the CL group stages, bringing with it lots of income - ability to keep their base, attract better players, outbid us in transfer fees, wages, and just the general attraction of playing in the CL.

    Are we really going to win the league in such circumstances? And what happens the season after when the winner of the league gets auto entry into the CL? That's another 40m they'll see and we won't.

    By winning this title, which the Huns have done comfortably, and the title after, which is very very likely, we are going to be mikes behind off the park and with a huge difference on the park too.

    No-one wants to hear this, but this is what we are facing. You are absolutely right to compare it to the delusions around Lennon turning this season around. We are in a very bad place.
     
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    I do not think that Covid has had as big an impact financially as many seem to think. Firstly the club kept all the season tickets sales so gate receipts income is still largely intact. They also probably saved a few bob on stadium maintainence and security since it is not needed since no fans are allowed in.
    Our finances has been decimated by Neil Lennon's failures. Failure to qualify for the CL and flopping in the Europa has left us missing a lot of income we could had done with. Also lets also not forget the costs of the trip to Dubai and then of couse the additional costs incurred in the aftermath of that.

    That has left us in a poor financial position considering a few seasons back we had big surpluses in the bank and now we probably are just breaking even. But we are only breaking even because we are selling our best players, Tierney last season, Frimpong this season. This summer we will 99.99% sell Edouard and possibly also Ajer. Those two alone should be able to fund some sort of rebuild. Should allow a budget of at least £15 million to the next manager. So I don't really agree that we will be limited to signing players in the low 1-3 million category.

    Nevertheless whatever happens Lennon is not the answers. He will blow any money we have on duds from Championship or sign more "projects".
     
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    Serious question.... why has he know wrapped it yet? Has he been told to hang fire till someone leaves somewhere else or is he banging someone in the board? Or is this all a rotten dream? What’s wrong with the guy??? He’s just ruined his ENTIRE legacy!!! For whit? To be so stubborn to think he can sort it, when clearly he’s way out his depth. Or are the support as a whole missing something blatantly obvious that only him & the throbbes on the board only know??? Completely at a loss how it’s dragging on & on & on...*
     
  6. Peej Gold Member Gold Member

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    Aye, being frank - had we made the CL, we would have posted a profit this year - well at least by the summer results at least, once the final CL money came in.

    THAT failure has * us financially - but even then, we still have money in the bank.

    I point blank refuse to accept that we have no money to sack this * and bring in someone of some level of decency.


    Further to that - and not to make this about the huns - too many on here are now crying about being 2nd for years to come. The huns are annually a fresh £7-10million in debt. We just admitted to Covid effecting us by aprrox £20million.
    Meaning, the huns are literally going to be about £30million worse off on the back of this season alone. And any CL money they think they are getting is going to be severely less than they desire(or we had previously) and won't make it to their pockets till end of NEXT season - where they will be anywhere from £7million to £20million worse off AGAIN next year before that money hits.

    The huns are NOT about to go in to a spending spree. There is no increase to their revenue this year and we are still a better off club.

    All we need to do is get this fraud of a manager to * and employ literally ANYONE with a working knowledge of modern day football and all it entails. A DoF will go a long way to keeping the bottom line financial idiots in our board the * away from football issues as well.

    A Deila type signing, with a tad more experience and with a tad more support from a competent structure and we will wipe the floor with the huns, easily.
     
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  7. thailandceltic Fuck the Huns

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    Mowbray/Lennon.. woeful season.. yet another big game Lennon bottled against County in the semis
     
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    Lennon has said he can’t teach the team how to defend set pieces anymore and also that they are possibly afraid to head the ball. That statement alone gives out the vibe that he believes he is blameless in this fiasco and it all lies at the door of the whole team that is picked. He now has to go into the last remaining 8 games with the same players that he has vilified. He has indicated that they are useless and they aren’t capable of simple instructions.

    All a bit rich from a manager who doesn’t do tactics or homework on the opposition. This season it has become more apparent that he doesn’t believe in organising the team to play higher up the pitch when it has proved very successful in the past. Especially when you are playing with a lone striker. He allows teams to attack us while we sit back and something like 45% of the goals against us have come from set pieces. He doesn’t play the sweeper keeper that Rodgers was adamant about. It forced teams to defend deeper in their own half. I also believe this has been detrimental to the success of Barkas as it is the norm in most other European leagues. I don’t believe he is as * as he has shown so far, he looks terrified. And he (Lennon) lies back with the feet up giving out the most negative vibes going. Not inspiring to his players.
     
  9. thailandceltic Fuck the Huns

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    Puse strings have always been tight at our club, but make no mistake about it, Lennon has been backed fairly well compared to some managers..

    Why he's still here you ask? Mate I have absolutely no idea. Money, Desmond is an utter *, no replacement, board don't give a *.... pick one
     
  10. Gioventu Onwards to victory. Gold Member

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    Hate him more than Kris Boyd. Never thought I’d say that.
     
  11. King of Kings

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    It could happen. For me, it would take a number of things to go very, very right.

    We don’t just have the usual churn of players this summer, we have the biggest rebuild I’ve seen in the post O’Neill era. If we go down the DoF route then we need to get the right DoF, who then needs to assess things and get the right manager, while rebuilding the scouting network. We then need to go out and sign a good 7/8 high quality, first team players. Signing them isn’t enough though - they have to gel as a team, and quickly. We have to do all of that against a very difficult financial backdrop, and go up against a team who are unfortunately very consistent.


    I think the more likely scenario is that we struggle. We might bring in a big name manager, but I’m not convinced we get all the signings right, and that a newly assembled team immediately find the level of consistency we’ll likely need. I look at next season as one where we’ll be stopping the rot and rebuilding tbh.
     
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  12. Jeannie960 Gold Member Gold Member

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    steady on that's just not possible!
     
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    Too far
     
  14. TonyTim Gold Member Gold Member

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    I want Lennon replaced as much as anybody. He has made a complete * of it, brought the standards we set back to The dark ages. Stubborn, arrogant, egoistic, unwilling to take resposibility and any other adjective that can be used. However , hate him? NO.
    I dislike what he has done to our Club, I dislike what type of manager he has become but Hate is a very strong word and I will keep that for for use with the Huns.
    I hate The Huns !!!
     
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    I hate the huns and Neil Lennon.
     
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    We’ve went from having one of the most professional, forward thinking, modern coaches in European football in Brendan Rodgers, to a fat ginger * chewing snus with his feet up in the dugout whilst a defeat to the worst team in the top flight is unravelling.

    Zero tactical analysis, no team shape, no patterns of attacking play, clear player selection bias, arrogance and contempt shown to the fans, players getting blamed left right and centre in public, the biggest car crash of a press conference in football history, countless contradictions, clubs reputation at an all time low.

    I can’t believe how it’s come to this. The level of mismanagement within the board to allow this to continue can only mean its deliberate.

    Many fans have had their suspicions since the Newco were rising in the lower divisions and I’ve seen nothing to be able to disprove that theory.
     
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    Where I think you make some good points there are some in there that align with the current narrative being painted by the media. We will likely wipe out most of the surplus that the club had built up, the remaining £19m in the bank mentioned in the January accounts which has already been topped up with £8.8m from the sales of Frimpong and Elhamed.

    There’s no doubt Ajer, Edouard and Christie will go in the summer along with most of those currently out on loan with options and players on the fringes such as Bitton and Rogic. This will raise a considerable amount of funds. The news England and probably us will be back to near normal for next season means income will be back up and spending in the market from others will be.

    We will be down to the bare bones in terms of a squad but we look like we need a clear out as the hunger from this squad has gone. It is ridiculously important we bring in a good manager or DoF and coach who can build their own side. However they will have some funds to do this from the sales above. Yeah we won’t splash out big fees on a number of players but proper investment can build a squad to be competing for the title.

    I agree we will be very much up against it in our attempt to qualify for CL and Europa Groups is more likely and will be necessary. If that’s the case and they qualify for CL they will be around £18-22m better off not £40m as you still get funds for being in Europa groups and often incur higher costs from player bonuses for CL.

    They also have the small matter of operating of an ever increasing cost base by signing players and selling none for a fee. Roofe is the highest earner in Scotland. They currently operate at a loss between £10-20m a year and that was with later stages of EL. So they aren’t going to suddenly be the picture of financial health without player sales as well.

    Is there a chance we get this wrong and make a mess of it? You only need to look at this season to see that’s possible but even Lennon on a limited budget built a team to challenge the previous incarnation, a team who had won two titles in a row and the previous year by a long way.

    Lennon a poor manager done this with a full rebuild of the team on par with this one. European football was a disaster right enough.
     
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    U kidding?