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Neil Lennon

Discussion in 'Ex Players' started by romeo9535, Apr 17, 2016.

Discuss Neil Lennon in the Ex Players area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. richie87

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    He’s hanging on for dear life he knows his numbers up so he will be negotiating his severance pay.

    My biggest issue is the now with the board, heaving worked for major corporations I know that succession planning is a main strategy the board discuss in meetings, “who takes charge if we all fall off the planet”. So why are we waiting till the end of the season to replace our CEO and football manager this smacks of shear idiocy to me changing the head of the day to day running of a company and the main line manager leads to a lack of in house experience and although they may have help similar positions in other companies they haven’t in Celtic FC so the settling in period is longer which we can’t afford as we have to change half a team and get ready for the CL Qualifiers in the space of 8 weeks

    So the only solution is change the manager now allow him the time to assess and produce a plan to take the football side forward he will be able to assess the players and work out a list of players or positions he needs filled once the current team is sold or resigned.
     
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  2. trackebhoy

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    I don't get the hate for Kennedy. I'm like everybody else as not sure how good he is, some fans seem to be confident that he is * & part of the problem. Considering we all know Lennon left the first time because he wasn't getting his own people, how much input does Kennedy actually have? The same people that want rid of him will want to keep Woods & i don't see any difference in that with how * our keepers have been.

    My opinion is the manager should always have their own people behind them as not every manager is hands on in training & needs to trust the men behind him to be sorting the match days errors out in training. Going by all accounts this is how it worked with O'Neill.

    I think the idea was to get over this season then give Kennedy the job, which i wouldn't be happy with. Kennedy should be going to another team getting experience then maybe come back to the club if he is good enough.
     
  3. Ziggy

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    Lennon couldn't be trusted to have his own coaching staff because they were never out the pub together first time around. You would think that would have been enough to put the board off giving him the job permanently again
     
  4. CountyDownFaithful

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    For a man who has talked so much about body language this year, I would love for someone in the media to question him on his body language.

    Sitting in the dugout with his feet up while we are trailing to Ross County with 10 mins to go. What does his body language tell us? That he doesn’t have a clue or give a *
     
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  5. Lennon1888

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    Don't think the Board, Management or coaches have gave a * all season to be fair.
     
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    I completely agree, it’s a total enigma where it asks many more questions than it answers. It it down to mismanagement at board level in terms of funding, is it him himself or is it the toxic nature and culture Lennons installing at our club?

    It’s a horrible situation, as fans like me are now questioning and scrutinising every aspect of our club and how it’s run, saddening really.
     
  7. Mr Maverick I like Trebles and Bass Gold Member

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    Mental he's still here.
     
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  8. Bunk Moreland

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    Almost everyone that Kennedy has worked under has had good things to say about him as well. Ronny Deila said he'd be a future Celtic manager as did John Collins years later, Rodgers apparently wanted to take him to Leicester and Damien Duff had nothing but praise for him so it goes without saying he must be doing something right that we just don't see from the outside looking in. I've never been in the Kennedy I think you're right about Lennon being toxic right now, everyone around him is going to be in the firing line with him, guilty by association I think it's called.
     
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  9. SuperZidane

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    That's exactly right. Part of Lennon's severance at Hibs (negotiated by his lawyer) was a Non Disclosure agreement. There were certainly a lot of stories circulating about drinking.

    When he was offered the job here, Lawwell made it clear that it was Kennedy who would be his assistant.

    Frankly, many managers (with other options) would have refused to accept that. However, as Lennon had been effectively sacked from his 2 jobs since leaving Celtic, it was take it or leave it.

    I find it annoying when people say - Lenny should have been able to bring his own back room team. Lennon accepted it so he owns it.
     
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  10. cidermaster Gold Member Gold Member

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    Is he still there? just asking ffs
     
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    How is this * still in a job?
     
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  13. Lennon1888

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    Incompetent board, Can't be that much to pay the * off.
     
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  14. RogicHasMagicToes

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    I'm now fully convinced the rumor going about a few weeks ago that he's due a massive pay off should he be sacked before the league is mathematically over must be true, it's the only logical explanation I can now think of, because you could literally give the ladies team manager the job between now and the end of the season for all that's left of it.
     
  15. RogicHasMagicToes

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    Might be looking at a 10IAR title bonus AND his 12 month rolling contract both being paid IF he's sacked before the league is mathematically over, that's what I think has been going on all along, board not wanting to pay him it & rightly so, still sickens me that imposter is still in charge of the team though.
     
  16. SuperZidane

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    Possibly - as has been debated on here before, a 12 month rolling contract does not roll over every day nor does it mean that the employee is guaranteed 12 months money - the notice period will be specified in the contract.

    Lennon was announced "from the showers" on 25/5/2019 - my guess is that his contract started either on 1/6 or 1/7 2019.

    I suspect that, once the league is lost - they'll give him formal notice that his contract is not being rolled over. I guess he'll have an option to do a Ronny Deila, save face, and see the season out or resign.

    I can live with him seeing the season out once we know for certain that he's leaving at the end of it.

    As the season is screwed anyway, the board may think the cheapest and easiest thing is to let Lennon see out the last 8 games (plus Cup if it goes ahead) while, hopefully, they are talking to potential replacements.
     
  17. Valhalla Thus spoke Batistuta. Gold Member

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    Lennon wakes up everyday with 12 months left on his deal. It’s the same deal McCoist had at the Huns. When you hand in your notice the final year triggers.

    It’s not a recurring one year deal where it finishes at the end of the season that’s being played.

    If we want to get rid of Lennon we have to give him a years salary. If he hands in his notice then his contract ends a year from that date.
     
  18. SuperZidane

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    Unless you have actually seen the contract - that's pure guesswork.

    In the UK, standard rolling employment contracts roll over automatically on expiry unless one or more of the signatories decides to terminate it and provides the legal notice period.

    The notice period does not legally have to be the same as the duration of the contract and frequently is not - executive staff above a certain level in the UK civil service are usually on a 2 year rolling contract with a 6 month notice period. That's the same for many executive staff in banking.

    Lennon may be due 12 months money - I don't know as I haven't seen his contract (like everyone else here).

    However, it is not correct to say that anyone on a 12 month rolling contract is automatically due 12 months payoff from the day they resign. That implies that there is only 1 type of rolling contract applying to everyone and that's not correct.
     
  19. Valhalla Thus spoke Batistuta. Gold Member

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    Hes got a 12 month rolling contract. He’s got 12 months everyday he wakes up in the morning. It doesn’t end at the end of this season.

    If he triggers his notice period today his contract officially ends a year from now.

    If we sack him today then we continue to pay him for a year.

    The only thing likely to stop a full years pay in either scenario is that Lennon takes over a new club or signs a deal within the media and he’ll either have to waive the rest of his pay or reach a settlement.
     
  20. SuperZidane

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    Repetition doesn't make you right! Unless you have seen the contract or can point us to somewhere official that this has been confirmed by the club, you are simply stating your opinion. That's not fact any more than anyone else's opinion on this page is.