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Neil Lennon

Discussion in 'Ex Players' started by romeo9535, Apr 17, 2016.

Discuss Neil Lennon in the Ex Players area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. Bobo_ Gold Member Gold Member

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    :56: Fair enough.

    He is the largest shareholder, by some way. And two or three of the other significant shareholders below him are there due to him.

    The outcome of AGM motions indicate that he and his pals have a controlling stake in the company.
     
  2. Bunk Moreland

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    Either that or the other significant shareholders don't bother to question his decisions.

    Just the thing that Fergus McCann was trying to avoid when he was selling his shares, no one person or group should have a controlling interest.
     
  3. Slater67

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    A know it would probably be different but on our Current form if we had gone into Huns game at ibrox on new year 15 points clear, Huns would be level on points with us by now
     
  4. Lupis Gold Member Gold Member

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    The right manager can indeed flip a squad, but this isn't like Rodgers taking over from Ronnie. Rodgers came in and improved the players that were there, no doubt, and brought in Sinclair. But mainly there wasn't much disruption to the playing squad he took over.

    A new manager here is going to have to improve the players that are left, while also having to recruit and bed in pretty much half a new stating 11 due to the players that will be leaving, and do all that over the space of a single transfer window. That is a huge difference in the situations.
     
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  5. Slater67

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    Martin O’Neill came into a depleted squad after Barnes had made an * of it bought guys like valgeren, Sutton, hartson, dare a say it Lennon, had a few good players aswell that stayed and 9 months later we had won a treble
    Good scouting and a good manager can turn things around very quickly
     
  6. RogicHasMagicToes

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    Neil Lennon is a fraudulent imposter of a manager without a world class shot stopper in his team, that was always obvious to me even before this season truly highlighted it to everyone, last season told its own story as to how many times Forster saved Lennons bacon & made him look good.

    Forster is that good a keeper that he actually convinced many of our fans that Lennon was a competent manager, reality is Forster painted a false picture, Lennon is a sham of a manager & always has been.
     
  7. Lupis Gold Member Gold Member

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    Yeah, and look at how much he had to spend to do that. I can't see a new manager getting circa £20m to spend now, never mind how much that would actually be in todays money. Plus he had Henke already there, where now we are about to lose our top scorer.
     
  8. JC Anton Here we go... Gold Member

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    He's living in a bubble just now, literally and metaphorically..

    Unfortunately for him soon and for the rest of his life he's going to be reminded of this season wherever he goes..

    He could have resigned and taken some dignity with him, but that's long gone.
     
  9. john2061

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    But that's been where all our problems started not getting foster back and then selling Gordon a total * up and that's how it's been all season .
    The worry is now we need to bring in a load of new players next season and I don't trust head of recruitment Mr Hammond to do that he needs to go as well .
     
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  10. SuperZidane

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    The Huns have clearly improved their situation. However, they have been running at a loss for years. They also converted debt to shares - they have over 341 million issued ordinary shares i.e. confetti. Celtic have less than 94 million I believe.

    The court case re damages taken by Mike Ashley is likely to result in a hefty award against them - there are also potential cases with Hummel and Elite.

    These awards (plus costs) will eat significantly into their ECL money (if they don't reach the group stages, it will almost certainly take all of it).

    Rangers took a financial gamble to stop 10IAR and its paid off, thanks to our incompetence.

    There is no doubt that we have squandered our financial advantage but I don't agree that they are miles in front off the park.

    On the park - they surely are and the next moves from our board (new manager, funding of transfers in and out) will determine the SPFL title/ECL entry not just next year but for the next 3 - 5 years.
     
  11. jambo_cfc

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    duffy came with a decent rep , welsh for me still wont make it here , he is best of a bad bunch at the moment , our fans demand instant success which we cannot afford youngsters to come in if they are not going to be above decent as a player . If you look at mcgregor , tierney , mcgeady , maloney and forrest maybe marshall outwith that our academy havent brought through very much . Mcmanus was a decent player and did his job to a decent standard but not to a standard where teams took notice. We should be looking at the best young players in europe but we dont ! We only seem to look at the uk where there are too many clubs offering better wages than we can at 16 ! If you look at ajer for example decent money was spent on him at a young age and look how he ha been ! We should be looking at the best young players in europe but we hardly ever !
     
  12. thailandceltic Fuck the Huns

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    Well said.. I said something similar but you said it better. Some proper doom and gloom merchants "we won't win the league for years" "miles behind the huns" absolute bollix.. all we need is a new good and professional management set up..

    The only fear is are the board capable of such an appointment
     
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    Its * torture resenting someone you've always admired
     
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    That's the thing I don't understand in all this. He must know that the fans have wanted him gone for a long time now and he should have taken the not so subtle hints and resigned. He would have at least kept some of the dignity and respect he did have at one time from the fans but, because of his stubbornness and refusal to do the right thing, he will now, sadly, be disliked and perhaps even hated.
     
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    This is my concern..no fans at games makes it so much easier to not listen.
     
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    True this. I didn't want him at the beginning but then got behind him (as that's what you do). If he had walked awhile back, I'd have been..ok..it didn't work out but I appreciate everything you've done..now its...erm...Sad really.. as I don't want to hate him..but it's getting close..
     
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    Ill get ripped for saying this but I personally feel Kennedy is as guilty of a leech as the rest. Yes a horrible injury ended his career, I felt for him, he was offered a position as a coach and Celtic stood by him, he earns rave credentials by some, but unfortunately I can’t see anything good about his coaching, if he’s in charge of defenders and defending set plays we really need to be addressing that, as we are terrible at that.

    As a footballer he played a different style of football, very old school in terms of football being played in Europe especially. As he had very little of a career he has to move with the times, keep up to speed with tactics and how the games played. If he can do this aye he’ll be an asset to us, right now he’s stuck 10 years in the past right with Lennons managerial style.
     
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    The situation with the pandemic is the only reason he’s still here, as there’s absolutely no way he would’ve survived this long in normal circumstances. I get the feeling that he’ll be hoping that lockdown rules will still be in force for the start of next season, so he can get a fresh start with more autonomy and his own backroom staff. In his mind, he probably thinks time will be a healer and if he gets off to a great start, and then fans are gradually allowed back in, then all will be forgiven, the 10IAR failure will be put down to exceptional circumstances and misfortune, and then everyone moves on. I would be very surprised if Lennon was still here as manager next season, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he still thinks there is a glimmer of hope that he’ll be here next season, for the aforementioned reasons.
     
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  19. SuperZidane

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    I agree that, at that point, he will either go (or confirm that he's going at the end of the season) although maybe its wishful thinking.

    I think there are 2 possible reasons that its dragged on.

    The 10IAR bonus story may be true - if so, I'm with the board for once, the league is long gone - why should we pay Lennon even more money for being useless? and/or

    They simply haven't got anyone to take over until the end of the season (if even then?).

    To be honest, as much as Lennon annoys me, if he announces that he's leaving after the season with only 4/5 league matches left (+ the Cup if it goes ahead) - I could live with that - assuming that gives the board time to line someone up for June - hopefully that's already happening!

    At least we could relax and ignore his BS about next season and rebuilds.

    If Lennon won't go gracefully - we should just sack him (or put him on gardening leave).

    I'm living in hope that there is a clear out of Kennedy/Strachan/Hammond as well as Lennon/Lawwell. If so, I see no point in putting any of them in as interim.

    Frankly, if Lennon goes and there are only 4/5 games left - I'd ask Scott Brown (assisted by Stevie Woods?) to take us to the end of the season.
     
  20. Bunk Moreland

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    It's a strange one with Kennedy because look at his record so far, 3 consecutive youth league titles, then became first team coach in 2014 and has won 6 consecutive league titles including 4 trebles, he's literally been a part of 9 titles in 9 seasons. So is he really part of the problem or is he just being dragged down with Lennon's pish management? He's one of those you look at and think what the * does he actually do? But his record suggests quite a lot.
     
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