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John Kennedy

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by LectersLuncheon, May 15, 2016.

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  1. Valhalla Thus spoke Batistuta.

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    The hard on for Duff among our support is absolutely bizarre.
     
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  2. JC Anton Get yer, hats, scarfs badges & tapes

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    His team selections show he was a big part of the problem.

    As soon as the handover is down he should be shown the door, talks a good game and that's it.
     
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    Got to agree with you JC. I was one of the people saying maybe he was just follow Lennon as he was the main man. Kennedy has shown over the last 2 games he was very much part of it with Lennon.

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  4. Luis1967 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Paul Larkin saying on twitter that he felt Celtic asking fan media to come on and ask JK questions on Friday was them trying to get the fans on board with Kennedy.

    Kinda makes sense as they don’t usually do that and even weren’t letting some fan media’s at the pressers of late. Cynic for example.
     
  5. Mr. Slippyfist

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    Paul Larkin is talking jobbies.
     
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  7. Seán Mac D Gold Member Gold Member

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    Why? :43:

    A guy that played at the highest level, who was well liked by all accounts (few players mention 1-on-1 coaching with him) with knowledge of Irish Football (a talent pool we have been absolutely hopeless at tapping into for our academy)
     
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    Hope so.
     
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    Kennedy should be applying for the Aberdeen job, would be stupid for him not too.
     
  10. Valhalla Thus spoke Batistuta.

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    Playing ability counts for absolutely nothing when it comes to being a good coach and knowledge of Irish football is irrelevant.

    He’s done absolutely nothing to prove he’s good enough to be a coach here. The talk was he was the one coaching the wingers yet our only decent bit of form while he was here was when we didn’t play with any wingers.

    The same people clamouring for him to get some sort of key role in our future set up and also desperate for Kennedy to get punted.

    It simply doesn’t make any sense.
     
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  11. Valhalla Thus spoke Batistuta.

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    He turned down the Hibs job.

    He’ll be * it at the thought of having to go out and prove himself on his own.
     
  12. Mr. Slippyfist

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    The burn it with fire...
     
  13. JamesM09

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    If they have any respect for John Kennedy they would tell him to apply for the Aberdeen job.

    He’s clearly been a big part of the failure here. He can’t pretend he is some amazing coach that wasn’t listened to.
     
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    I'll be honest, I would give Duff credit as I think he would have played a part in the attacking side of things last season and we looked fine in that department, far better than this season when he is gone, that's for sure. It's folk falling over themselves trying to use a quote from Duff to justify Kennedy being in charge of the team just now I can't understand. Duff also said Lennon was the best manager in Scotland during the same set if questions.
     
  15. Seán Mac D Gold Member Gold Member

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    Nonsense. Experience isn't the be all and end all but it does count for something.

    First-hand experience shows at least you have a personal aptitude for the skills you're looking to pass on to others. That should count for something for the players you're coaching.

    Why?

    We're chronic at dipping into a talent pool that's on our doorstep and that may have an affinity with the football club. Any coaches/scouts coming in with a knowledge should be of benefit, not an irrelevance.

    That could easily be flipped to say there's nothing prove he isn't good enough.

    He was the only loss in our coaching team from 2019/20 to 2020/21 and our fates in both campaigns couldn't have been more stark. How much of that is causation or correlation would need to be looked into.

    Head-scratcher this one. I presume you've forgotten about our early season form where Cluj at home was our only blip.

    Forrest and Johnston were tearing it up early season for us (Forrest had more League and overall assists last season than any previous season ever, for example) Sinclair was contributing and Morgan was filling in too.
     
  16. MagicBallBhoy Gold Member Gold Member

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    think im the only one who has seen some improvement in the celtic side the last 2 games

    can feel the hate coming already lol

    first game best play from fullbacks in an attacking sense for months

    2nd game created tons of chances

    surely thats better than what we seen under lennon for the whole season ?
     
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    It’s been shown in every generation that experience means nothing about your ability as a coach. Playing at the highest level literally means nothing when it comes to coaching.

    ‘Knowledge of Irish football’ is ‘knows the city’ type level of pish. Again, it counts for nothing if they’re not any good at judging the talent.

    Cluj wasn’t a blip though. The same management team then flung away our best chance at a run in Europe in ages a few months later. And just because we won games doesn’t mean we were actually playing good football.

    The 352 after Dubai was the only time we were actually playing football that was entertaining.
     
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    Not been cheeky here mate but what does him playing at the highest level have to do with being a manager. Also we had players, Duff & Rodgers praising Kennedy to the highest & he looks utter dung.

    I had the same thing with posters slagging off a manager we were connected with because he was a * player. When i pointed out Mourinho, Klopp & Rodgers weren't great players.

    Great player doesn't make him a great manager
    * player doesn't make him a * manager
    Why do people not understand this?
     
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    Duff was highly thought of..

    Numerous player's from the first team to academy said so. By all accounts the player's respected him. Enjoyed his work on the training ground. What he brought to us in general..

    Whether it was tips for our attacking player's, set pieces or just a word in the ear as he was pretty vocal on the sidelines..

    It's no surprise our attacking play dropped off a cliff when he left..
     
  20. Seán Mac D Gold Member Gold Member

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    Having high-level personal experience isn't a guarantee of being a good coach - how that knowledge is imparted plays it part - but you'll need to explain how having experience means "nothing"

    Having a knowledge of a talent pool in close proximity is nowhere near 'knows the city', not even close. As a club with limited resources we need to be creative in attracting talent and coaches having the added benefit of knowledge of different markets is a big plus. FYI there's nothing to suggest Duff "isn't any good at judging the talent"

    Cluj was the literal definition of a blip in our early season form, it was our only loss in 18 games. With some very good performances in between.

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    We were far more direct and on the front foot in the 3-5-2 but our earlier season performances in the 4-2-3-1 were more solid all-round IMO (Cluj aside)

    Copenhagen was a disaster and I'll never say it was anything other than that but it was in the 2nd half of the season months after this.