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  1. MickeyyyMack CELTIC GLASGOW OK

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  2. MickeyyyMack CELTIC GLASGOW OK

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    Perhaps more suited to Media,
    But it is in Regards to Coronavirus.

    dispatches: Corona virus how Britain is changing
    Ch4 , starting just now could be interesting.
     
  3. Sean Daleer 8 and 3 ¹/³rds Gold Member

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    Just stumbled on a YT video of ITV cameras getting exclusive access into an ICU unit. Filming patients battling against Covid-19

    Are you * kidding me?

    Everyone needs to isolate and social distance but ITV are allowed cameras inside ICU...

    GIVE ME * PEACE.
     
  4. Sean Daleer 8 and 3 ¹/³rds Gold Member

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    Next video is a Sky news "exclusive" from Italy. Complete with dramatic music and serious narration.

    This * is * wrong. Weird and wrong.

    The narrator sounds like a guy promoting a dramatic movie
     
  5. Sean Daleer 8 and 3 ¹/³rds Gold Member

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    Cameras in the "red zone"... In the ICU

    We have all to stay home and social distance but cameras are allowed in ICUs.

    It would be funny if not so tragic.
     
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    Nearly as bad as these * doing WhatsApp messages.

    peak tomorrow starts for covid 19.

    900 deaths a day over 1/3 of them children.

    * do people get off saying this *!
     
  7. MickeyyyMack CELTIC GLASGOW OK

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    US military intelligence tried to raise the alarm about the coronavirus epidemic in China when it was still embryonic in November, inside sources claim – raising questions of what they knew and who ignored, or squashed the report.
    Not only had the coronavirus epidemic begun spiraling out of control in Wuhan by November 2019, but military analysts were already warning it “could be a cataclysmic event” for both China and the US, four sources familiar with the briefings told ABC on Wednesday. Analysts at the National Center for Medical Intelligence, a subsidiary of the Pentagon’s Defense Intelligence Agency, had been trying to alert Pentagon and Donald Trump administration officials of the looming catastrophe for months before the country finally took action, the sources claim.

    Based on detailed analysis of intercepted communications and satellite imagery, the NCMI reportedly projected that a virulent contagion already getting out of hand in Wuhan would soon be menacing not just China but US troops stationed nearby. Most intriguingly, the sources hint that analysts may have begun looking into the unfolding epidemic even earlier, given the timeline for when the material crossed President Trump’s desk. By the time the agency’s warnings made it into the President’s Daily Brief in early January, they would have had to undergo “weeks of vetting and analysis.”

    “The timeline of the intel side of this may be further back than we’re discussing,” one source told ABC, suggesting “preliminary reports from Wuhan” dated back even earlier than the NCMI report, which was widely released among the intelligence community before Thanksgiving and spawned several intel community bulletins that supposedly outlined Beijing’s own responses to the growing epidemic. China knew the coronavirus had gotten out of control, the sources allege, but tried to keep it under wraps – a claim the Trump administration has echoed repeatedly in the months since then.

    The new revelations place the timeline for the virus’ origins much closer to the controversial claims of Chinese foreign policy spokesman Lijian Zhao, who claimed last month (albeit without real evidence) that the US military had brought the virus to Wuhan when they sent a delegation to the Military World Games in mid-October.

    The Trump administration has been slammed for dragging its feet in response to the coronavirus epidemic, playing down the potential disruption the disease would cause even as it upended China’s economy and forced millions into quarantine. While the president insisted “no one could have known” the virus would wreak such havoc in the US, there’s no way the Trump administration could not have seen the information in the NCMI report, former deputy assistant defense secretary Mick Mulroy told ABC, claiming “it would be a significant alarm that would have been set off” and “literally every intelligence-collection agency” would have gotten involved in following up and responding to the threat.
    But Defense Secretary Mark Esper told the outlet he was unaware of the issue coming before the National Security Council in November or December. No official response was forthcoming from the administration until Trump closed the border to flights from China in late January – all the while insisting there was nothing to worry about (and, if insider stock sales by multiple senators were any indication, telling Congress something different). Worse, not only had multiple government agencies conducted several pandemic “war games” in the months leading up to the outbreak, but they had performed poorly, making many of the same missteps that they would faithfully repeat in real life.

    The administration also had China’s example to learn from, regarding the importance of early testing and the futility of ‘shutting the barn door’ (locking down large segments of the population) after the horse was gone (after the disease had already spread all over the country). As a result, the US economy lies in ruins and millions of Americans are out of work – and the nation still has the highest infection numbers in the world, dwindling medical supply stockpiles, and no hope of getting back to work any time soon.
     
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  8. Sean Daleer 8 and 3 ¹/³rds Gold Member

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    Watching another video about how front line workers are cut off. Unable to to see loved ones, family members.

    All these lonely overworked people being filmed by major film crews.

    How is that possible?
     
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  9. MickeyyyMack CELTIC GLASGOW OK

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    Is it the same film crews who have ran the PM sits up in bed over every news channel whilst 900 odd people have died in 24 hours.
     
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  10. MickeyyyMack CELTIC GLASGOW OK

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    When do people see this ending?

    I think the lockdown will be eased by June as long as the cases fall. However there are a lot of idiots about who think the rules don't apply to them and are potentially spreading the disease.

    Social distancing will become permanent and it is something that should have been adhered to before this. Sporting events will be completed behind closed doors for the next year or so.

    Travelling outside of the country will change forever.
     
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  12. McGuire Gold Member Gold Member

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    I think the lockdown will ease late May/start of June roughly as well now..

    I think people think when the lockdown is over that that'll be it though and everything will be open and back to normal....it won't. Will still be a long way off but work will be the first thing that goes back to normal for most I imagine..

    Pubs, restaurants etc anything like that will be a long way after the lockdown has been lifted. Will still need to be giving each other space on the streets and in line for the shop's..

    Supposedly the peak is from around tomorrow and next week but don't know how true that is..
     
  13. MickeyyyMack CELTIC GLASGOW OK

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    Think a lot of things will change forever , travelling work etc.
     
  14. PaulM1888 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Gradual and phased lifting of the ‘lockdown’ will happen in May IMO. For the elderly and most vulnerable though, that will be months and months away.

    Social distancing 100% won’t be permanent and almost nothing will change in terms of global travel when this is all over.

    This isn’t the first global pandemic, it won’t be the last and all the lessons learnt will be forgotten in place of the drive for economic strength over public health.
     
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    Statistical reporting is * poor.
     
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    Lockdown won't end until there's a vaccine. If they lift restrictions before that then the number of deaths is just going to go flying up again.

    It would also put a huge amount of people in a really difficult situation. When they end the lockdown, then every employer is going to say come back to work now or you're fired. For people who live with an elderly person or someone with a health condition, that means forcing them to choose between their job and their income vs the life of a loved one.

    Hopefully there'll be some kind of vaccine or treatment soon enough, and once that's discovered we'll be back to normal in no time.

    Then once the pubs are open again we can all go for a pint and forget that this ever happened.
     
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    Lockdown wont be on indefinitely. It will end with or without a vaccine. It will get to a point where they will have no choice at all. Hopefully we get one long before that, but it takes years to make a proper vaccine with testing etc. * being first to get one that's been rushed out without proper trials.
     
  18. Drakhan Nac Mac Feegle Gold Member

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    As long as Wetherspoons is told to get tae *. Owner is a right *.
     
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    Guessing you're in Ireland by the name but I think for the best indicator of when total lockdown will end, you can look at the 12 weeks they've told people in vulnerable categories to isolate for.

    Also the fact they're furloughing people and providing people with the Self Employed Income Support Scheme grant for 3 months. That all suggests to me that it could be by June til we start to see things gradually come back.
     
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    Is there any Celtic supporter near Newcastle wanting to donate to foodbanks at Celtic or to help NHS in Glasgow with any equipment such as face masks.
    I will be going to a funeral next week (will find out tomorrow when) and could collect it day before funeral and take it up and meet a member of the GB to help with the Green Brigade packs they are giving to the hospitals.

    If there is anyone interested from Newcastle upon Tyne area in this then PM me.


    EDIT:Funeral on 21st so if anyone from Newcastle area wants to donate to Glasgow food banks or NHS packs i will pick up on 20th April and meet a GB member to drop off on Tuesday 21st April before 1pm before i head to funeral. Please pm me if interested. Will NOT stop anywhere else.
     
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