Confess your unpopular opinion

I still don't know what it is you’re wanting me to read or what it is that’s not as bad as being made out about the virus. The main thing in that blog seems to be death figures being reduced by 5k after changes to way to record them.

I’m not listening to the MSM. I’m seeing the damage it’s done to my family and how it’s tearing families apart. Anyone with friends or family who work in the health or care industries will tell you how brutal it is.

It’s ironic you’re claiming people are being fed * from the MSM while you’re posting links to the Guardian and Daily Mail as evidence that it’s not worse than the flu. I’ve never seen the flu take out care homes or put people in a coma just because they’re asmathic.

 

You don’t see the irony in the MSM changing their tune every 5 mins? Yes there are families being torn apart I don’t deny that. My point is I don’t feel this is as prevalent as we are being told, you think of all those people out there who can’t get treatment because of Covid. We have had this take precedence over all other illness which also imo doesn’t sit right. Here also is what a PCR test was designed for.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...in-reaction/&usg=AOvVaw0R2hwyLPFOk1xi1ldNE8sq

 

I do see the irony but I’m also not going to pick and choose certain things from the MSM depending on wether it supports my position.

It’s a pandemic. Of course it was going to take precedence when it first exploded until they start to understand more about the virus and how to at least control it a bit.

The NHS was at breaking point and we’d be in a far worse position than we already are if we didn’t focus on it primarily. It’s not as if the NHS just completely neglected every person who didn’t have COVID.

 

They had specially built hospitals which were sitting empty for months, so why didn’t they use them if it was that bad?

 

i * hate those hun *.
sorry i had to get that right out there.HH

 

Because it never got bad enough to make using them necessary. That doesn’t mean ensuring they were there and ready to use was a wrong decision.

Have you ever used any form of insurance? Exact same idea. You take protection against an outcome that may or may not happen. In the case of insuring your mobile phone, you do it because you’re fairly risk averse. In the case of insuring your home, you do it because you can’t afford not to. What insurance policy would you then be willing to take out against tens of thousands of lives?

I would also point out that the article from the daily mail compares Covid deaths to combined deaths from flu and pneumonia. Covid 19 is a leading cause of pneumonia. It makes the comparison very circular, and largely redundant.

What we can say with a very high degree of certainty is that Covid 19 is significantly worse than the average flu season, both in terms of number fo deaths and long term health implications of those that survive.

 

I find that everyone who states the MSM en masse does this. Angus was terrible for it. They’re useless unless they agree with you.

People should have a healthy degree of skepticism towards any source, mainstream or otherwise. Ignoring something entirely because it’s deemed mainstream is just bizarre to me though, and akin to ignoring medicine that’s conventional in favour of herbal remedies only.

Mainstream is effectively popular. A media source having less viewers/readers/listeners doesn’t make it any more accurate or subject to bias. I would actually argue that in most cases, non msm sources are held up to far less scrutiny.

 

Because they built them for backup incase they couldn’t slow the virus down.

The hospitals weren’t sitting full of staff nurses, doctors etc but no patients.

Speak to anyone who works even at the lowest level of the NHS and they’ll tell you how bad it’s been.

 

People always say that the deaths attributed to Covid 19 are vastly exaggerated, but the death figures for April and May had a 43% increase in deaths over the five year average. Nearly 45,000 extra people died.

I get that lots of deaths have been loosely attributed to Covid 19, but it's hard to argue against the numbers.

The current death rate is lower that average. I'd guess that's because of how many higher risk people have died prematurely in recent months.

 

My Mrs has been off cos she’s high risk but she’s in the NHS, nowhere near the hospitals but she gets the weekly bulletins or team meetings hearing about how horrendous it’s been. I’ve got a couple of pals who work in the hospital saying how bad it’s been.

I went for an interview in one of the hospitals last week for a spark job and the gaffer there hasn’t had a proper day off in months because they were rammed with it and he was saying how horrific it’s been.

People on the front line have felt it. Doesn’t matter what people online are saying.

 

Aye.

The stories are horrific and they’re going to need some amount of help mentally after all this to help them. Especially the young/trainee staff.

 

* tory *.HH

 

So if it was that bad why weren’t they used? That’s my whole point.

 

It’s a moronic point to be honest.

Mate you do realise that the hospital wasn’t just sitting there full of nurses, doctors, specialists etc. Who simply had nothing to do? They were still at other hospitals working their * off.

It was built incase we got to a situation like say Italy where people were literally being lined up outside wards.

The hospital was built as a backup. ‘Insurance’ basically as someone else explained to you.

 

And yet there’s a report coming out this week pointing out that Cancer rates could top Covid deaths, that is a shambles no ones health is more important than anyone else’s. My point is why not use the Specially built hospitals for Covid? Thus allowing seriously ill people to get critical treatment aswell. You are the one who mentioned the NHS was on its knees, if this was the case then the nightingale hospitals would have been used more.

 

Think all of the undiagnosed illness that have passed the nhs by during this is a huge worry. Not sure but think our doctors are still only doing phone consultations. That cannot be a good thing

 

We implemented measures that ensured it didn’t get bad enough to need them.

People need to realise that we were flying somewhat blind here. Ensuring these hospitals were ready to go in the event of needing them, and not needing them, is infinitely better than wishing we had done something when we needed them, and not having them.

That’s all it comes down to.

 

You can see your doctor, and in most places have been able to do so for months.

 

My Mum had a tumour which was cut out last year, her latest check up and consultation has been cancelled. So do we now have a two tier health care system? Where Covid takes precedence over all other critical care, this is a ticking time bomb imo.