Carl Starfelt

What stats are we talking about? Because we haven't dropped points in the league with Starfelt in the side since October. We're also have the fewest goals conceded.

 

Hes still a bombscare, he has had moments, but usually its the odd erratic moment within good performances, with him its the other way around.

Maybe he'll turn it around, but not sure my fingernails are long enough till it gets to the bone.

 

True but that doesn't mean it was down to Starfelt.

His aerial duel stats are pretty poor. Think he's like 5th or 6th worst in the league for players who have played 15+ games.

He was turned inside out twice by Nisbet.

He's quite lucky he has CCV and Hart to bail him out most cases.

Are you happy with Starfelt? I think we could do so much better.

 

I agree but he's definitely in the same bracket as Ambrose and Boyata.

He's so inconsistent. He's either class like against Hearts and Motherwell or will gift the opposition chances.

Should be aiming for better imo

 

If he's in the same bracket as Boyata then that's not bad going. Boyata is another who was underrated and treated harshly in his time here. Think people need to realise that every player will make the odd mistake. Kyogo misses some sitters. Rogic is capable of having absolute stinkers like he did the other night. Forrest can have 3 or 4 games in a row where he's anonymous.

When I see comments like "he's a bombscare" or "I get the fear at the sound of his name", it's embarrassing. You'd think the guy was costing us a goal every game he plays.

We have the best defensive record in the league. Conceded 12 goals in 21 games, we conceded 4 goals in the 4 games Starfelt has missed in the league, 2 of those against Dundee and 1 against Livi. We're a better team with him in it.

Could we do better within our budget? I'm sure we could. But given some of the absolute haddies we've signed over the years, it won't be all that easy.

 

He just looks so awkward at times.. Even the position he gets himself into when receiving a straightforward pass can look weird..

He does have attributes, but he will cost us in big games..

Would get destroyed if we make the CL next season.

Needs to find that consistency, it is tougher for a defender or GK as their mistakes can actually cost us goals and games..

Jury firmly out for me..

 

I think he's fine and he pairs well with CCV. Most players make one or two mistakes per game but Starfelt seems to be the only one who gets hounded for them.

Hart's distribution has been dodgy at times, Juranovic has been guilty of some really poor passing, CCV sometimes gets caught out of position. But they all get congratulated for our defensive efforts.

Meanwhile any time our record gets brought up in regard to Starfelt folk will say it's despite him, and make him out to be some kind of donkey that the rest of the defence have to cover for.

I think we have had more trouble up front recently than we have had at the back e.g. Livingston and St Mirren. Hopefully our new signings will have sorted that, but until we've seen the evidence I'll worry more about our ability to score goals than preventing them at the back.

 

Tbf, the team as a whole would get destroyed if we get the likes of PSG, Bayern, City etc again.

 

Wasn't great is being very charitable.

He got caught under a looping ball to gift the corner that they scored from, when he had so much time.to be behind the ball and attack it.

Then he completely lost his runner and gave him a free header in our 6 yard box to score.

Multiple times beaten in the air and then the fresh air swipe and nutmeg v Nisbet.

It's up there with one of the worst performances of a CB in years. Thank * Carter-Vickers and Hart held it together.

 

You're spot on.

Was saying it a couple of months back. I really like CCV, but he's had a few games where he's given the ball away so cheaply at times (not so much of late), making pretty basic passes. But nobody said a word. Soon as Starfelt did it, it was the usual dross of calling him a dud.

Hart the other night against Hibs. Almost cost us a goal at the start when he pulled his arm away and Nisbet hit the post, gave the ball away twice by passing it straight to Hibs players. Again, no criticism.

Starfelt puts in a fantastic performance and you get people in here slagging him off again.

Some people just have it in for him. And as much as they suggest they don't, they do.

 

I'm not so sure, the development is evident, aye we may take a sore one or two but also think we will surprise a few..

Not the same level but with the players we have to rotate now, we would have won at Betis and went close in Germany..

CL is big jump, but we may get a better idea from this European campaign..

But, the defence is a worry, especially if it features oor Carl..

 

I'm in the same boat as @JC Anton the juries still well out for me.

There are small things he does in games that just don't fill me with confidence even when they often don't lead to disaster. Things like body shape were he angles it in such a way that only 1 pass is on and a striker can then press him knowing he can't go anywhere else. Carter-Vickers by contrast will always keep his body open to the play where he has "outs" if the defender presses.

That said he was excellent on Monday and I think even just going off this thread and Twitter he got plenty praise for it, as he should. We just need that level of performance consistently from him.

 

Aye, I would rather we had a go than trying to sit in for a point etc...

Defending at that level will be the whole teams' responsibility, its early days but looks like we've recruited players who have that dynamism to defend the ball when we get turned over.... Especially in the middle of the park now.

The defence has been cruelly exposed because of that early in the season, especially in Europe, so it should in theory provide a bit more protection for the them..

Don't get me wrong, teams like City or Munich will pass through any press we can provide, so it will definitely be messy at times as we ain't changing how we play..