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Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Lewis Kerr, Jun 19, 2023.

Discuss Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. hiphopaddict

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    Tierney and Jota signings are not a negative. Those signings are what you are supposed to be doing. Strengthening your squad with better players in those positions.

    Main first choice centre forward is one of the most important positions. It does not look good when you are noticeably weakening that position ahead of a massive European tie.
    Playing a team of Bayern's quality was always going to be the most difficult games of the season. Weakening your team ahead of the tie is the exact opposite of what you are supposed to do. No other team playing at that level will do that.
    Bayern for example wouldn't sell Harry Kane and just leave the position to be filled by a lesser striker in their squad.
    We are supposed to be aspiring to be at Bayern's level. They must be looking at us and thinking "what the * are they doing? This never happens". We've made their preparations for the games a shitload easier
     
  2. saltire78

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    I agree! He's very clearly frustrated, but I believe he's not "fully * off" as lots of hollow drum supporters are trying to generate. He's been down the road before and knows sometimes you don't get everything you want, and especially with Celtic/spfl considerations.

    What we could REALLY use would be a good prep NOW to line up people for immediate transfers in the summer, so we have SOMETHING bedded in for the start of things. And lock in our current star performers so we don't have the uncertainty of them moving all summer too...
     
  3. hiphopaddict

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    There is a school of thought that says that we did sign a replacement for Kyogo in plenty of time for him leaving....Adam Idah £9m.

    It could be the case that he has the 2 best games of his career against Bayern....who knows?
    I actually think especially in the away leg he would have been first pick anyway, ahead of Kyogo

    But we know what's happened here, there is no disguising it

    If anything goes wrong with Idah before the Bayern game meaning he can't play, there will be * to pay for those in the boardroom.
     
  4. James Gold Member Gold Member

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    That school of thought falls at the fact the manager himself specifically mentioned numerous times he wants a striker though. Regardless if moving forward Idah was the main man or the backup we needed another striker
     
  5. hiphopaddict

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    It's true
    Even if Idah was always going to be promoted to 1st choice....we then needed someone to be backup to Idah.

    If there's one man at Celtic who'll br happy with this outcome it's Adam Idah.
    A guaranteed 4 month run as first pick striker.
    By the next transfer window he should be cemented as no. 1 if he does the business until May
     
  6. celtic20

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    Cannot believe people are defending the board in here. Absolutely mental.
     
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    Excuse me, i have won many trophies as a football manager, humm manager. Last time i took Preston to the EPL and won the champions league with a sugar daddy investment.
     
  8. FrankMcCallum

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    The board could all curl out a jobby at the Brother Walfrid statue and people would find a way to spin it in to a positive.

    Bizarre behaviour.
     
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    Nobody said they were negative ffs.

    The point being made that was we've been without an effective, competent LB since KT left.
     
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    This.
     
  11. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    @Blochairnbhoy would want it forensically analysed to calculate how much Lawwell has been taking from the dividends to pay for caviar
     
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    Not sure I'd conflate people not freaking out about it and defending the board... Most of the people "defending" the board have pointed out simple, if somewhat painful truths - we struggle to attract players of the quality/recognition Rodgers wants, we operate on a restricted budget by European standards, Bayern will probably rout us no matter who we'd brought in, we're financially one of/the best run club in the whole of Europe, our current squad will probably win everything domestically anyway. I don't think anyone would have been on the forum * that we'd wasted money if we had brought the players wanted in, for the lack of better books and bonuses...

    The truths are we simply need to do BETTER! And screaming and shouting won't get that. We need to find a way to leverage a setup which believes (correctly) that it's model works very well and is efficient and effective and alter their mindset to taking more risk on a risk/reward ratio. Telling them (anyone?) that we're not doing things right and we're not successful will NEVER hold water.
     
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    Tbf they don't take as much as they could. I don't care how much the take either it's the incompetence they show in the football side in terms of signings that frustrated me a lot
     
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    I don't think people are defending the board outright. Discussing possible outcomes that could have hindered them isn't a bad thing.

    It wasn't a great window, and people expected more. I don't think anybody isn't disappointed by it. But I think just saying "the board are *" just makes people angrier. I'm frustrated but concentrating on the positives at the club, which in my view far outweigh the negatives makes me enjoy supporting Celtic more.

    Positives, Jota is on the wing and we have a bit of strength in midfield with Schlupp. We also know KT is coming back in the summer. Some dead wood such as Bernabei, and got Holm, Palma and Welsh on loans where hopefully they get bought. Negatives we've lost a striker, who was a fan favourite and we didn't sign another.
     
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    Aye mate with all due to respect don't * on my head and tell me it's raining.

    You're saying the reasons for such inexcusable failure in the transfer window is down to:

    1. Not being able to attract the quality Rodgers wants
    2. Because we have a limited budget
    3. We'll get pumped off Bayern anyway

    Come on. We had half a * year to source a variety of striker options and failed to get one in the door.

    Inexcusable and incompetent is a perfectly reasonable conclusion to come to.
     
  16. celtic20

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    That's who we as fans need to hold to account when there's such a ridiculous transfer blunder like what we witnessed in failing to get a centre-forward in.

    Let's not act as if this window is some sort of one off either. It's been going on consistently regularly over the last decade - 15 years.
     
  17. saltire78

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    I'm PERSONALLY not saying any such thing, I'm saying that OTHER FANS are saying this, and that they're right. If you think I'm happy clapping to the outcome of this window you're VERY wide of the mark.

    I'm just pragmatic to other fans opinions. I'm disappointed. I feel underappreciated and unheard by the board. I feel like we've once again missed a stepping-on point to push to a higher level.

    This doesn't make the board; or even owner/directors, *, or arseholes or incompetent... It just means that they view success and risk through a different lens than I/others do. They're also not wrong in the assessment that they're doing their jobs well, are protecting the club, fans and shareholders and are growing the club. There are LOADS of different way to skin a cat...

    For the record, YOU'RE opinion is also a perfectly valid one...
     
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  18. HoopyT Danny McGrains Bearded Army Gold Member

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    Random post to move thread on from page 666!!!

    *not superstitious in the slightest....honest*
     
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    I am disappointed at this outlook also.

    Yes we probably got further than we expected in the Champions League. But it does seem like they have resigned themselves to being knocked out in the next tie.

    I noticed this with Brendan's interview after the kyogo/Jota deal.....All very past tense...."we've HAD a brilliant European campaign..." etc and he said a few things similarly in the past tense.

    We are HAVING a brilliant European campaign. Is the way he and the board should be looking at it.
    The mentality should be to give us the best possible chance against Bayern, which I don't think they've done.

    They'll expect fans to buy tickets for the Bayern game, for us to speculate our hard earned cash on the possibility (slight though it is) that we could win and could upset the odds and go through.
    They themselves did not speculate with their finances in the same way. And the whole outlook of the tie against Bayern has been pessimistic and defeatist.
     
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    Yes we do need to hold them to account. I don't think accusing those are trying to look at the positives as well as the negatives as happy clappers. I understand why people are angry I really do, I'm just not and that's because I do see improvements overall.
     
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